Nonconsensual abortion

Planned Parenthood protests possible prosecution of marriage-marring Marine for multiple murders

ppThe following comes from and Aug. 28 posting on the almost-factual news page of the San Diego Reader.

Statement released following the news that Christopher Lee, the ex-Marine arrested on suspicion of killing Marine wife Erin Corwin and hiding her body in a mineshaft, may be prosecuted for a double homicide if it is determined that she was pregnant.

Here at Planned Parenthood, we naturally oppose the murder of women. We also believe that no woman should be forced to have an abortion. But if a woman’s pregnancy is terminated against her will, whether by her death or other means, the resultant fetal death isn’t murder. Murder involves the killing of a human person. And if we’ve learned anything from Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, it’s that the fetus is absolutely, unequivocally, not a person.

Because if the fetus were a person, it would be entitled to full protection under the law. And if that happened, then abortion would be the taking of innocent human life. And that just can’t be true. So if you want to prosecute a man who kills a pregnant woman because he’s killed the fetus as well, fine.

Call it fetal abuse or something. Call it nonconsensual abortion, even. Just don’t call it murder. Because it can’t be murder. That’s all there is to it. Defending abortion rights means doing so even when it’s difficult. This is one of those times.

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  1. Science has come a long way since 1973 Roe v Wade.

    The unborn child at any stage is a human being. They are not dogs or cats.

    Scientific, non-religious medical site: “Endowment for Human Development”

    The word “PERSON” is NOT defined in the US Constitution.
    Under common law someone who can be sued is a person. Humans who are wards of the State are not considered persons. Corporations are considered persons. An estate can be a person. Foreign governments can be persons.

    • Anonymous says:

      If a corporation is a person, does one commit murder if one dissolves the corporation? Can corporations get married? Can a fetus be sued?

      • Anonymous, the answers to your questions are: no, no, no and no.

        That is exactly why the LAW does not use the word “PERSON” as Planned Parenthood is trying to get us to do.

        Human Beings are not necessarily persons. Look it up yourself.

        • Your Fellow Catholic says:

          I think law uses the term “persons” alot, actually, and persons under the law are not necessarily human beings. I think you folks have that backwards.

          • Anonymous says:

            No YFC, most of us get it.
            Planned Parenthood is trying to re-define “person” under the law.

  2. So now Planned Parenthood is trying to rewrite the law in their own image. How evil is that !
    What a bunch of liars.
    Now Planned Parenthood wants to take away the protection rights of pregnant women and their spouses under the law.

    CA Penal Code: PENAL CODE SECTION 187-199
    ” 187. (a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a
    fetus, with malice aforethought. ……”

  3. The evil Planned Parenthood is trying to make the law fit their own actions, when they do not accurately inform the Mother of the consequences of her actions.
    Informed consent must be present, or it is murder.

    CCC: ” 2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.
    Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:
    You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.
    God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes. ”

    CCC: ” 2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense.
    The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life.
    A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae, by the very commission of the offense, and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law.
    The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.”

  4. Life Lady says:

    Wow, so “they just can’t be a person” and its “difficult”? Wow. Double wow, in fact. An unborn child in the womb certainly IS a person. What else would they be? They are not anything else but HUMAN, of course, and regardless of their stage of development, they ARE persons. I would suggest to anyone else who decides to stand outside the abortion facility of Planned Parenthood in San Diego, the one on First, PLEASE, hold a sign “It’s a human person, not a clump of cells” as a reminder that this may be difficult, but get a grip, you are deciding to kill another person. After that its up to the person carrying the person to decide whether they can live with killing another person..Been there, done that, and believe me, I have a really hard time living with that decision made 35+ years ago. If I knew then what I know now, I would never have walked into the place, and never killed that little person, never.

    • God Bless your immortal soul for sharing your heart wrenching testimony. I am so very sorry for your loss. Peace and love.

    • Anonymous says:

      A “person’ under the law is not necessary a human being, and can be a corporation, estate, etc. Look it up.

      A “human person” is a human being – from the moment of conception.

  5. Planned Barrenhood can call a fetus a puppy but it’s still a human being in progress.

  6. The angel of the Lord declared unto Mary and she CONCEIVED of the Holy Spirit.

    And the WORD was made FLESH and DWELT among us!

    Dwelt – To live; reside
    Live – To have life; continue to remain alive. – To pass life in a particular manner.

  7. Wm. Hamilton says:

    “almost-factual news” — folks, this was satire.

  8. Kenneth M. Fisher says:

    Life Lady,

    My mom self aborted my big brother, but thank God she did not get my big sister. She too suffered much, but she never abandoned her Catholic Faith, and she died a very Catholic death.

    Had she then known what we now know about the fetus (Little One), I don’t believe she would have done what she did!

    I am telling you this in the hope and prayer that it will give you strength and consolation.

    God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
    May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
    Viva Cristo Rey!
    Kenneth M. Fisher

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