Archbishop José Gomez discusses president’s recent executive orders

"Are we now going to decide that some people are not worthy of our love because they have different skin color, a different religion or were born in the 'wrong' country?"

Archbishop Jose H. Gomez of Los Angeles (Credit: CNS photo/Paul Haring.)

Last week was hard. It is sad to see it come to this — that the president of the United States must define, by an executive order, the precise meaning of the word “wall.”

“‘Wall’ shall mean a contiguous, physical wall or other similarly secure, contiguous and impassable physical barrier,” according to one of the three executive orders issued last week on immigrants and refugees.

The first thing to say is that these executive orders seem like they were put together too fast. Not enough thought seems to have been given to their legality or to explaining their rationale or to considering the practical consequences for millions of people here and across the globe.

It is true that the refugee orders are not a “Muslim ban,” as some protesters and media are claiming. In fact, the vast majority of Muslim-majority countries are not affected by the orders, including some that have real problems with terrorism, such as Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

That does not make these orders less troubling. Halting admissions of refugees for 90 or 120 days may not seem like a long time. But for a family fleeing a war-torn nation, or the violence of drug cartels, or warlords who force even children into armies — this could mean the difference between life and death.

And it is a simple fact that not all refugees are terrorists, and refugees are not even the main source of terrorist threats to our country. The terror attack here in San Bernardino was “home grown,” carried out by a man born in Chicago.

I am pleased that one of the orders will mean that our country will finally begin giving priority to helping Christians and other persecuted minorities.

But does God intend our compassion for people to stop at the borders of Syria? Are we now going to decide that some people are not worthy of our love because they have different skin color, a different religion or were born in the “wrong” country?

As a pastor, what troubles me is that all the anger, confusion and fear that resulted from last week’s orders was entirely predictable. Yet that does not seem to have mattered to the people in charge.

It is true that these new orders on immigration mostly call for just returning to the practice of enforcing existing laws.

The problem is that our laws have not been enforced for so long that we now have millions of undocumented people living, working, worshipping and going to school in our country.

Full article at Angelus.

Comments

  1. Ha! Gomez writes: “The problem is that our laws have not been enforced for so long that we now have millions of undocumented people living, working, worshipping and going to school in our country.”

    When, oh when, did this bishop or any other clamor for America’s immigration laws to be enforced? Never.

    The “problem” Gomez refers to has a simple solution: self-deportation.

  2. Actually, last week was a triumph! Finally a President who gets it, and is not afraid of backlash from wimpy snowflakes. If this past week is an example of what we can expect from -say it-President Trump – I’m delighted! God bless him and Vice President Pence as they lead America! 🙂

  3. AB Gomez: “We all agree that our nation has the obligation to secure its borders and establish criteria for who is permitted to enter and how long they are permitted to stay. … But our approach to all these issues must be consistent with our ideals. America has always been different — some would say exceptional. ” With one hand he gives and another he takes away. Either we have the rights delineated above or we do not.

  4. Ann Malley says

    “Are we now going to decide that some people are not worthy of our love because they have different skin color, a different religion or were born in the ‘wrong’ country?

    Since you’re into playing pretend to keep from discussing the truth about this situation, Your Excellency, and the truth about Catholic Faith and Morals, feel free to add whatever adjectives you like to your dark fantasy. It’s nothing of the truth and, thanks to speeches such as this, more and more Catholics are waking up to reality.

    So, thank you!

  5. Mr. Gomez makes some important points, the first being his last:
    “The problem is that our laws have not been enforced for so long that we now have millions of nondocumented people living, working, worshipping and going to school in our country” –just like in Europe! Look what has happened in Europe: Speaking to Italian Catholic Journal La Fede Quotidiana, : “Monsignor Carlo Liberati, Archbishop Emeritus of Pompeii, said that Islam will soon become Europe’s main religion thanks to the huge number of Muslim migrants alongside the increasing secularism of native Europeans”. By experience, they do not assimilate with their hosts; but insist on having their own government like in Great Britian, and pushing for Sharia Law. Doubt many…

  6. He also truly said: “It is true that these new orders on immigration mostly call for just returning to the practice of enforcing existing laws”. — There are good reasons why we follow our laws, based on experiences of previous generations. We have to vet immigrants to ensure the security of our own citizens! We have to be convinced that any refugees/immigrants want to come to this country, love it enough to become citizens, put it before their own country, accept its laws, and respect their new neighbors”. Refugees records can be empty. It has nothing to do about skin color. It has everything to do with what is in their hearts. Many terrorists with muslim backgrounds have entered this country thanks to Obama. Some have struck…

  7. He also said: “And it is a simple fact that not all refugees are terrorists, and refugees are not even the main source of terrorist threats to our country”. — The first part of that sentence is easy to agree with; however, if the main source of terrorism is not the refugee spawned Islamic terrorists, then please inform us sir, who the main source of terrorists threats to our country are! I agree that he is “pleased that one of the orders will mean that our country will finally begin giving priority to helping Christians and other persecuted minorities”, as Obama persecuted Christians from being refugees, letting them be killed in their unsafe homelands at a greater pace than the muslims; although the 6 different muslims sects spar…

  8. I am glad to see he recognizes: “It is true that the refugee orders are not a “Muslim ban,” as some protesters and media are claiming”. — Not only claiming but are exaggerating, and causing all kinds of chaos with there mischief and evil deeds at our nation’s airports. If these fanatics had any common sense, they would see they may be cutting their own throats in their future. Its kinda like a transparent Trojan Horse you might say! And what is so bad about a wall? Afterall most of the neighborhoods in LA have got fences and walls around them? Why? Perhaps privacy, but also protection no doubt. If we can put up fences around our neighborhoods, why can’t our country do so to protect our privacy and national security? Many…

  9. What percentage of our jails is filled with illegal immigrant criminals that have hurt US citizens? Higher than you might think. Finally, I think we need to stop thinking that accepting refugees is the only answer to the middle-eastern countries squabbling and civil wars. Most of the refugees are men, in their warfighter years! Where are all the women and children refugees? Only a few come over. Where are all the Christian refugees? Obama kept them out. These refugees should stay at home and defend their homelands rather than running like cowards and expecting US and ally blood to be spilled for them on their shores. It would be cheaper to keep them in their homelands and build sanctuary cities over there protected by the UN…

    • Steve Phoenix says

      % of federal prisoners who are illegal aliens? 36.5%, over 1/3rd of the population, for most recent year (FY 2014) available (US Sentencing Commission, July 2015)

      In 2014 (most recent year data available) 79,000 illegals are incarcerated in state prison, out of 136,000 inmates–58% (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421673/) . But California general conceals the number of illegals by forbidding the collection of country-of-origin data. However, to qualify them for various federal reimbursements, CA must supply name and SSN data—and that is where the actual illegal population is finally determined.

  10. when the united states limited refugees during the holocaust it was not operating from prejudice but from a sense of triage in the face of limited war resources. the prime motivation for refugee restriction was uncertainty over the duration of the war and the need to funnel all resources to the effort., painful as that was. when diocese close churches, local parishioners express feelings that their color, language and social status are probably involved, not realizing that the ‘big picture’ has many components in a decision. there is still time for the diocese of los angeles to free up money for funds for refugee help by selling the megacampus of the…

  11. Your Fellow Catholic says

    The executive orders banned a lot of Muslim refugees, yup. And a lot of Muslim travelers. yup.

    But it also banned Christian refugees. Christians persecuted in Iraq and Syria.

    Where is your outcry now?

    • Steve Phoenix says

      Crocodile tears for Syrian Christians, “Fellow ‘Catholic'”.

      A year ago it was proven to you that Syrian Christians were being systematically excluded from refugee status for the USA. Former Attorney General Elliot Abrams writes about only 56 Christians being accepted–out of over 10,000 migrants:

      http://www.newsweek.com/us-bars-christian-not-muslim-refugees-syria-497494

      You denied these facts all through 2015-2016.

      The Knights of Columbus (go to their site) also extensively document their horrorific and cruel treatment and exclusion from visa eligibility the past 3 years. You were entirely unconcerned then.

      To act as though you care now is the height of insincerity and hypocrisy.

  12. Incredibly naive! How is it possible?

  13. John Patrick says

    If the Archbishop likes people from terrorist countries, that is one thing, but the safety of the American people is the responsibility of the US Government. Perhaps he hasn’t heard of terrorists in modern times. Perhaps he has no knowledge of the Battle of Lepanto, the same Moslems who attacked Europe. The Holy Rosary was said by the faithful throughout Europe for a miracle. Maybe the Archbishop might advise his Catholics to do the same.

    • Your Fellow Catholic says

      The ban keeps Christian refugees out of the US. Why is the US afraid of Christians being persecuted in Syria?

  14. “Are we now going to decide that some people are not worthy of our love because they have different skin color, a different religion or were born in the ‘wrong’ country?”
    We KNOW that some people from certain countries are more likely to be terrorists. We HAVE decided to protect our country from those people who “are not worthy of our love.”

  15. The Catholic Bishops were complicit with the Obama administration in not enforcing our immigration laws. They cared not a wit about our culture they were destroying as long as they got their 30 pieces of silver to assist Obama in his remaking of America. They foisted millions onto our schools, healthcare, and welfare systems calling the taxpayers uncharitable for not embracing the cost. For Archbishop Gomez to sight non enforcement as part of the problem is the height of hypocrisy.

  16. Steve Phoenix says

    Almost incessant race-baiting again (‘are not worthy of our love because they have different skin color”) by the alleged spiritual leader of LA Arch.

    More importantly, yet again, Abp. Gomez drives the narrative of fear and anxiety regarding immigration restrictions while ignoring patent realities (“a family fleeing a war-torn nation”): the Tsarnaev brothers came to US as “refugee” children, and grew to be Islamic jihadist terrorists (murdered 3, wounded 264, many gravely); the San Bernardino murderers, Rizwan Farook was a child born here of Pakistani migrants; his co-murderer-wife “Tashveen Malik” (we don’t even know if that is her real name) he helped immigrate into the US in Aug 2014: they killed 14 and wounded 22. Omar…

    • Steve Phoenix says

      ..Mateen US-born,was the son of Pashtun migrants admitted to the US, who attended a radical Sharia mosque in Orlando where extremist imam and migrant Farookh Sekaleshfar spoke in the months preceding he “Pulse Nightclub” attack about the need to immediately kill gays (Mateen killed 49, wounded 44).
      Abp. Gomez wont address any of the common threads in this factual recounting of the most salient recent terror attacks.

      So, Archbp., while you lamely do a petty one-up on Trump’s procedural abilities, one week into his office (“these executive orders seem like they were put together too fast”), you would be willing to tolerate another attack? Since all these are closely linked to unvetted migrants and their radical inspirational…

  17. Steve Phoenix says

    Again, some bishops and senators try to hide behind the fig leaf of moral rectitude; but the continued heated and fear-stoking speech originates from those who should inspire calm.

    On Jan 31st, Tim Kaine, the Krazed Klown from Kansas City, announced “fights in the streets”; of course he will be safe, But the “Black Rock” and other Occupy groups on cue rampaged yesterday at UC Berkeley. It is the next phase of the insurrection.

    But make no doubt, the responsibility lies on the Gomez-McElroy crowd as well, as to what is to come.

  18. Who is writing Archbishop Gomez’s speeches—–SEIU, no doubt?

    The lack of honesty, the lack of intelligent thought is overwhelming to all of us as Catholics.

    Too bad that the bishops can not be fired.

  19. hosemonkey says

    This society has every right to defend itself against a people who practice a “religion” who practices forced conversion or murder for non-compliance. The Koran is very clear, read it for yourself, Islam is not compatible with democracy, keep them out.

    • Muslim ran countries do not allow anyone to take Bibles, Rosaries or any other non Muslim religious item into their countries. They destroy Bibles all the time, and that is in the more moderate Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia. One Filipina told me that they whip workers who gets caught saying the Rosary in one Muslim country. Yet Muslims want to come over here and tell us what to do. No thanks!

  20. Bishop Gomez should try reading more than the propaganda of the mainstream media.
    His assumption are close to slanderous.

  21. AB Gomez is a race-baiter who’s been scandalizing the Catholic faithful for over a decade re:illegal aliens. He is a traitor to our country and to the Catholic faithful.

    DESPICABLE.

    • I think he is trying his hardest to walk an impossibly thin line between being an advocate for illegal immigration and amnesty, and respecting the laws of this country. He knows ultimately he cannot do both, so he chooses the former and defends this choice by strong emotional appeal and obfuscating language. In this he stands with most of the American hierarchy, or so it seems to me. Would like to be proven wrong.

  22. So many good Americans commented here above explaining why this must be done, and the leftists/Marxists/commucrats still don’t get it. . . . or . . . . maybe they do and it is part of their plan to destroy our American republic and democracy, to bring America down to communism. So often these leftists think they know what is best for us like Obama and Hillary, and shove evil things to promote their evil and deceiving agendas down our throats, and the rats just follow these pied pipers into the sewer to drown.

  23. It would be nice if these open border clergy would decide to actually help people themselves. How about they (re-) locate to nations with an exiting population and address the problems at their roots ? If the US is partly at fault for conditions in those places due to its policy (ies), those items should be addressed in order to, again, fix the root of the problems.

  24. “No Catholic can subscribe to even moderate socialism.” (Mater et Magistra, #31 [1961], qv. Quad. Anno [1931])

    Although Abp. Gomez has tried to be moderate about the US bishops’ generally socialist stance on every issue:
    https://bellarmineforum.org/2013/05/25/from-under-the-rubble-is-the-rule-of-law-immoral-part-iii/

    ..it is a shock to many people to realize that—without qualification, socialism is condemned by two of the most major encyclicals of the Catholic Faith. No, as one sycophant (and uninformed) finger-wagger claimed, it does NOT have to be “Marxist socialism” or “Leninist socialism”—all socialism. Socialism and the notion of collectivist control (QA’s wording) is absolutely condemned.

    • The US Bishops, who under Stephen Blaire and others, gave powerful support to the Affordable Care Act, have supported limitless immigration and welfare support for even illegal migrants, and have demanded financial support for the Marxist core of the Campaign for Human Development and other “Catholic charities”, are now, generally speaking, extreme socialists. They should not be obeyed in these matters.

      And thanks to Gomez, McElroy, etc., now the great Socialist State must gather all the new little piglets to its breasts to feed—necessarily to make them effective pawns of the Great Beast of State. Remember, on Animal Farm (George Orwell), there are the feeding animals and the worked-to-death-to-feed-the-feeding animals…

      • By the way, Lepanto Institute has demonstrated how the Campaign for Human Development is essentially a Marxist financial services company:

        http://www.lepantoinstitute.org/cchd/the-marxist-core-of-the-catholic-campaign-for-human-development/

        • I say there is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING, that a faithful and devout Catholic can find fault in the words of this Archbishop. NOTHING. It is not even socialist, contrary to what you are intimating. I challenge you to quote what is problematic to you about his statement, rather than conjuring up long-standing gripes that have no relation to Cal Cath’s re-publishing of the Archbishop’s words.

          • Merriam-Webster Dictionary: Socialism (def.): “Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.”

            “jon” has shown himself remarkably ignorant of Catholic social teaching, notably Mater et Magistra (1961) that clearly states “No Catholic can subscribe to even MODERATE socialism..” He wishes to change the citation to refer to Marxist and Leninist socialism—which no where appear in either encyclical. No. It is an absolute prohibition.

            I have also listed 3 areas where “jon” is ignorant also of Abp. Gomez’ and many of his brother-bishops’ socialist views on centralized governmental control and…

          • ..re-distribution of resources, strictly opposed in Quad. Anno (1931). Bishops who advocate socialism are teaching against their own magisterium “jon”, like a good schoolyard challenge, says, “Prove it”. No need to prove what is self-evident. QED.

            We are done here.

          • US bishops (USCCB, Catholic Charities, CRS, others) received a stunning $91 million (MILLION) from the US Government under Obama’s administration in 2016.

            http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2746-the-money-trail-why-catholic-bishops-are-silent-on-hillary

            No socialism to see here! No, Sir, no socialism to see. Must prove it, says the blustering finger-wager. $53 million came from the US Refugee Admissions Program.

            Hat-tip to Joan Pelicano for the link.

            No socialism by the bishops here, nothing to see.

          • Folks, just for the record, O Campion has FAILED to quote anything from this Archbishop’s statement that proves that Gomez or any American Catholic bishop is a socialist, and that Gomez or any American Catholic bishop espouse centralized control of the American government. ZERO substantiation. He has provided NO citation from any bishop proving any of his allegations. People, please, before you spew outrageous accusations (i.e., that these ministers of the Church are socialists), better be ready to prove your point, otherwise, you lose your credibility, as O Campion has! The fact is that the deposit of the faith, the Gospel, does not fall neatly into any American political label.

          • anonymous Anselm says

            Trying to prove the socialism of the socialist US Bishops to jon is like trying to prove Christ’s resurrection to the Pharisees. No amount of “proof” is enough.

          • False Anselm. In fact the three so-called “proofs” that O Campion presented are not proofs of anything at all, and certainly NOT proofs of the American bishops’ supposed socialism in the vein of Marxism-Leninism. What O Campion has merely done here is “insinuate” an intent into the bishops’ exercise of their ministry (i.e., that they’re socialists) without really presenting any definitive substantiation (which he can’t anyway because his point is false).

            For instance, his allegation that the bishops support “limitless immigration” is contradicted by Gomez’s own statement above that: We all agree that our nation has the obligation to secure its borders and establish criteria for who is permitted to enter and how long…

          • they are permitted to stay. ”

          • anonymous Anselm says

            Gomez’ statement — as all the US Bishops’ stance—pretending to support limited immigration and criteria for entry is mere political spin.

            Expect the ingenuous to fall for it and the operatives to utilize it.

  25. Steve Phoenix says

    Oh, Abp. Gomez, what is your position on another anti-Muslim “ban”, apparently following Trumps “Islamophobic” lead?:

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/islamophobia-kuwait-imposes-visa-ban-on-five-muslim-majority-nations-including-pakistan

    Oops: Kuwait is imposing a visa-ban on 5 Muslim-majority countries. I guess they don’t want to be invaded again. Are they Islamophobes and nativists?

  26. Lepanto Institute on the USCCB’s Campaign for Human Development’s (CCHD) socialist ties:

    “In studying the philosophical and organizational background of the CCHD, the nature of such relationships is key. As with any network of Communist front organizations, it will be seen that the organizations receiving CCHD funds share a common Marxist ideology and have founders and leaders in common.”

    “Gamaliel and Interfaith Worker Justice … annually account for around a million dollars of Catholic money. That’s roughly one seventh of the total grants for any given year. But keep in mind that CCHD was designed to fund members of Saul Alinsky’s Marxist community organizing networks. ”

    There is a whole list of organizations that…

  27. Too many are parroting the fake facts by the Democrats and the main stream media.
    Here are links to the President’s Executive Orders.
    ” EXECUTIVE ORDER: PROTECTING THE NATION FROM FOREIGN TERRORIST ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES ”
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/27/executive-order-protecting-nation-foreign-terrorist-entry-united-states
    &
    ” Executive Order: Border Security and Immigration Enforcement Improvements”
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/25/executive-order-border-security-and-immigration-enforcement-improvements

  28. Follow the MONEY $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $
    Our FEDERAL tax dollars – – –
    Catholic Charities received Total Award: $202,247,624.00 in FY16.
    Most has to do with immigrant and refugee resettlement within the USA.
    Chart in link to show breakdown.
    http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2746-the-money-trail-why-catholic-bishops-are-silent-on-Hillary
    This is BIG business.

  29. Excellent Article!

    Taken from LIFESITE NEWS – The Surprising Real Reason for the Hate Against Donald Trump

    Can Trump and his administration endure this near satanic, on-going assault? Many prayed for him during the election and he astonishingly prevailed. It is clear, regardless of the president’s personal flaws, that he is doing many right things. He would not be so intensely hated by all these people if he were not.

    Even more prayers are needed to protect, guide and inspire Trump and his administration to stay the course and serve the Will of God. There is also great need to pray for the physical safety of President Trump and his leadership team.

    continued…

  30. anonymous Anselm says

    Hypocritical race to the bottom by Demonrat leftist politicians and sycophant US bishops supporting mass immigration which will overwhelm us. Charles Schumer in 2015 asserting migrants need better vetting: vetted:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/hypocrisy-schumer-tweeted-2015/

  31. anonymous Anselm says

    Hypocritical race to the bottom by Demonrat leftist politicians and sycophant US bishops supporting mass immigration which will overwhelm us. Charles Schumer in 2015 asserting migrants need better vetting: vetted:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/hypocrisy-schumer-tweeted-2015/

  32. Evidencing more of his socialist opposition to lawful US immigration controls, Abp. Gomez posted on his Facebook site his evident approval of USCCB’s Bp. “Joe” Vasquez (D-Austin,TX) opposition to a border barrier, to increased enforcement of the law, including detention and deportation of illegal migrants:

    http://www.usccb.org/news/2017/17-023.cfm

    Abp. Gomez and the bishops approve of the $91 MILLION socialist transfer monies they received from the Obama admin in 2016, $$ used to force mass immigration policies on the citizens of the US against the overwhelming will of the people. There is no separation between Caesar and the US Bishops any more.

    .

    • By the way, Abp. Gomez Facebook stream, besides his editorials in the Angelus (LA diocese paper), is an additional rich source confirming his fundamentally politically socialist motivation—for anyone who wants to know the truth.

      “No Catholic can subscribe to even moderate socialism.” (Mater et Magistra, #31 [1961], qv. Quad. Anno [1931])

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