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First-grader couldn't talk about the Christmas star
Brynn Williams

Brynn Williams

The following comes from a Jan. 14 release from Christian Newswire.

First grader Brynn Williams presentation of her family’s Star of Bethlehem was shut down because she’s “not allowed to talk about the Bible in school.”

Brynn’s incident at Temecula Valley Unified School District comes on the heels of a candy cane case involving West Covina Unified School District first grader Isaiah Martinez who was told, “Jesus is not allowed in school.” A copy of that press release was sent out by Advocates for Faith & Freedom last week and may be found here.

On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, Brynn Williams brought home a “share” bag as part of a school assignment.  Brynn’s teacher had given every child in her class a canvas bag with verbal instructions to find something at home that represents a family Christmas tradition, put it in the bag, bring it to school, and be prepared to share the family tradition.

Brynn took the Star of Bethlehem from the top of the family Christmas tree to represent her family’s tradition of remembering why Christmas is celebrated.  Brynn worked diligently on a one minute presentation in order to explain to the class that her family’s tradition is to remember the birth of Jesus at Christmas time.

Brynn began her presentation on December 19, 2014:

“Our Christmas tradition is to put a star on top of our tree.  The star is named the Star of Bethlehem. The 3 kings followed the star to find baby Jesus, the Savior of the world. John …” [teacher interrupts Brynn].

Brynn’s teacher said, “Stop right there! Go take your seat!” Brynn was not allowed to finish her presentation by reciting the Bible verse, John 3:16.  Brynn was the only student not allowed to finish her one-minute presentation. After Brynn took her seat, the teacher explained to Brynn in front of all the other students that she was not allowed to talk about the Bible or share its verses.

 

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  1. Bizzare .. why did the teacher give the assignment in the first place if that was his/her attitude?. Editor.. are you sure this is accurate? I don’t see a source. How could the teacher or the school explain this. Even if one isn’t a believer, the Christmas “story” if that’s what they want to call it, comes from the gospels. ????

  2. John Feeney says:

    More proof that the public schools are run by Christian haters.

  3. John 3:
    [16]For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting. [17] For God sent not his Son into the world, to judge the world, but that the world may be saved by him. [18] He that believeth in him is not judged. But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [19] And this is the judgment: because the light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than the light: for their works were evil. [20] For every one that doth evil hateth the light, and cometh not to the light, that his works may not be reproved.

    [18] Is not judged: He that believeth, viz., by a faith working through charity, is not judged, that is, is not condemned; but the obstinate unbeliever is judged, that is, condemned already, by retrenching himself from the society of Christ and his church.

    [19] The judgment: That is, the cause of his comdemnation.

    [21] But he that doth truth, cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, because they are done in God. [22] After these things Jesus and his disciples came into the land of Judea: and there he abode with them, and baptized. [23] And John also was baptizing in Ennon near Salim; because there was much water there; and they came and were baptized. [24] For John was not yet cast into prison. [25] And there arose a question between some of John’ s disciples and the Jews concerning purification:

    [21] He that doth truth: that is, he that acteth according to truth, which here signifies the Law of God. Thy law is truth. Psa. 118. 142.

    [26] And they came to John, and said to him: Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond the Jordan, to whom thou gavest testimony, behold he baptizeth, and all men come to him. [27] John answered, and said: A man cannot receive any thing, unless it be given him from heaven. [28] You yourselves do bear me witness, that I said, I am not Christ, but that I am sent before him. [29] He that hath the bride, is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, who standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth with joy because of the bridegroom’ s voice. This my joy therefore is fulfilled.

  4. Too stupid for words!
    How in the WORLD did this zany teacher expect children to talk about “Christmas” without mentioning “Christ?”
    Did she want to hear about the red-nosed reindeer or something?

  5. God, please help us all…..

  6. “Brynn worked diligently on a one minute presentation in order to explain to the class that her family’s tradition is to remember the birth of Jesus at Christmas time.” Baloney. Like a first grader is going to think to cite a bible passage as part of her presentation. This was her parents trying to make a political statement where it didn’t belong, plain and simple.

    • Ann Malley says:

      Even if that were so it was rather lame and ill thought out by the teacher who assigned the project in the first place. I mean really. Tell us about ‘your’ Christmas tradition. WIDE OPEN DOOR. Can’t blame the Christians for walking in.

      That said, parents typically help/coach kids with presentation assignments. Especially the oral presentation kind. Sorry, but that’s just what we do.

    • Ok, Mr. Baloney,
      As a former early elementary school teacher, I can tell you that when a teacher gives this type of assignment to students, she expects family involvement. Of course a young child this age is not going to think of using a Bible verse in her presentation. But this gives the family an opportunity to talk about what is important to them. Learning about and sharing one’s faith is not about politics. The teacher got (or almost got) what she asked for, plain and simple.

      • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

        Abby,

        Let us hope and pray that by the time groups like “American Center for Law and Justice” get through with this “teacher”, she will get what she has earned for herself, that goes for her “principal”, and the District as well!

        May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
        Viva Cristo Rey!
        God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
        Kenneth M. Fisher

    • Peter, you said “This was her parents trying to make a political statement where it didn’t belong, plain and simple.”

      Are you assuming that this child’s parents are politicians? Politicians make political statements. Citizens in the United States of America are guaranteed freedom of speech. Our children do not check this right at the door of the classroom.

      Who says that “Jesus is not allowed in school”? Who wrote that law? Who would enforce such a law? Who would support such a law? on what grounds is that law justified? Politicians call themselves “law makers”. Ever notice how much they enjoy writing laws? No wonder so many of them hate the 10 Commandments. If these were taught once again, those politicians would loose much of the power they now hold.

  7. If you have children in public schools, if you leave them there this is what you will get. I suggest that you homeschool them, or find a group of faith-filled educators who can give them the lessons needed to advance thru the grade system to fulfill their education requirements. That is the only solution. Schools are paid by the government according to their attendance. Less students, less money. Money talks, Bovine Scat walks. Walk away, before its too late.

    • Your Fellow Catholic says:

      Bovine Scat. Really?

    • Life Lady..How about CATHOLIC schools?
      Shouldn’t we be promoting them. Our school has good enrollment but I’m told if we get too low for too long the diocise can close us :-(

      • C & H, if your Catholic School teaches Common Core, I would beg parents to take their child out of there. Many of our Catholic Schools are CINO ):

  8. good cause says:

    Our public schools new Christmas tradition….”don’t talk about it!”.

  9. I agree that the parents are the one’s who set this in motion. When I was homeschooling our children, I remember there were other parents (typically Protestant) who said they thought it better to put their kids in the schools so that their “light” could “shine among men.” However, I don’t think it is appropriate for parents to use their children as missionaries in the godless school system. This little girl at age 6, had no idea of the reality of government schools these days. Better for all Christians to pull their kids out of these schools …imagine if everyone did that across the country! Talk about sending a message!

  10. The teacher erred in this case. The child most certainly can share her family’s Christmas tradition and the Star if Bethlehem. It is the teacher who cannot engage in proselytizing the children in his/her class. Court decisions and California law are clear about this!

  11. “Brynn’s teacher had given every child in her class a canvas bag with verbal instructions to find something at home that represents a family Christmas tradition, put it in the bag, bring it to school, and be prepared to share the family tradition.”

    I think that most of you are missing the point here. I think that the teacher knew exactly what she was doing when she gave that assignment. Imagine if this were the former Communist Soviet Union in the early days. I have no difficulty imagining that teachers there gave out an identical assignment. What better way would there be to, one: identify any dissidents. And two: to indoctrinate the youth.

    “After Brynn took her seat, the teacher explained to Brynn IN FRONT OF ALL THE OTHER STUDENTS that she was NOT ALLOWED to talk about the Bible or share its verses.”

    • If we had the ability to go back in time to 1800 America and were to interview people on the streets, asking any question starting off with “Are we allowed to talk about……..” Imagine the reactions you might receive!

      Now imagine asking the same type of question in today’s America!

    • Tracy you make some really good points. Another problem regarding private schools and also home schooling, though, is that not many are geared toward helping students with special needs (neurological problems, etc.), and a parent would have to be specially trained to help his/her child. Public schools seem to have the monopoly on this type of help for students.

      • Thanks Anne T., One thought: Helen Keller

      • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

        So Anne T., in your mind, it is better to turn the children God has given you over to the Satanic State so that they can get “proper” neurological problems etc. help than to shield them from Satan’s public schools! Think again Anne T.!

        May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
        Viva Cristo Rey!
        God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
        Kenneth M. Fisher

        • what? batwing crazy, if you ask me.

        • Only loving dedicated parents can help their children…..not public schools……

        • Ann Malley says:

          Kenneth, I don’t think that Anne T is advocating turning children over to the Satanic State, but rather pointing out a very huge GAP for those parents with developmentally disabled children.

          I know of a very devout, pious traditional family that endured such difficulties with one of their 5 sons. They struggled against having to send him to a Public facility to get help with his speech/hearing issues. I wish they hadn’t had to take that risk. And yet they did. The results, however, are that their son is now able to hear, speak, and defend Truth and Tradition to the betterment of all. It is a tricky call and not black and white.

          So perhaps we Catholics should better facilitate these issues in our own community. That, I think, is what Anne T. was pointing to.

          God bless.

    • Ann Malley says:

      Excellent point, Tracy. Many a ‘whoops’ question is actually posed on purpose. Quite a teaching moment.

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