The brazen clericalism of Cardinal Mahony

George Neumayr returns to his subject


The following comes from a February 21 story by George Neumayr in Crisis Magazine.

Neumayr, former editor of San Francisco Faith and Catholic World Report, wrote “Cardinal Mahony’s La Cosa Nostra” on Real Clear Religion, re-printed on Cal Catholic January 28  four days before the story broke about Archbishop Gomez relieving Cardinal Mahony of public duties  and five days before Cardinal Mahony answered Archbishop Gomez publicly.

As archbishop of Los Angeles, Roger Mahony was famous for his petulance, dispatching angry letters to priests and others whom he considered insufficiently deferential.  But now that he finds himself in a subordinate position as a retired and rebuked bishop he displays none of the deference he once demanded.

No sooner had his successor stripped him of his diocese-wide “administrative” and “public” duties than the cardinal took to his “blog” to pout over the demotion through a snubbing letter. Hinting at a powerful faction of Los Angeles movers and shakers behind him while adopting a tone of passive-aggressive innocence, Cardinal Mahony wrote on his blog that “others” had “encouraged” him to publicize his letter to Archbishop Jose Gomez. “I hope you find it useful,” he said.

The letter was designed to embarrass, undercut, and scare his successor:  “When you were formally received as our Archbishop on May 26, 2010, you began to become aware of all that had been done here over the years for the protection of children and youth. You became our official Archbishop on March 1, 2011 and you were personally involved with the Compliance Audit of 2012—again, in which we were deemed to be in full compliance. Not once over these past years did you ever raise any questions about our policies, practices, or procedures in dealing with the problem of clergy sexual misconduct involving minors.”

Sadly, Cardinal Mahony’s bullying seems to have worked at some level. Archbishop Gomez would have been justified in strengthening his original rebuke after this appalling letter (not to mention defending himself against its insinuations and fallacious misdirection).  Instead, Archbishop Gomez has given some ground to him, writing to Los Angeles priests recently: “I am confident that Cardinal Mahony’s accomplishments and experience in the areas of immigration, social justice, sacred liturgy and the role of the laity in the church will serve the College of Cardinals well as it works to discern the will of the Holy Spirit in these deliberations that will lead to the election of our new pope.”

This is odd and unjustified praise for a cardinal who is principally known for secularizing the liturgy, blowing up at Mother Angelica, habitually defying papal directives on lay ministry, and routinely mistaking “social justice” for his own personal views in favor of socialism and amnesty. How could any of this “experience” possibly serve the College of Cardinals in its deliberations?

The irony of this line of praise is that even many of Cardinal Mahony’s old progressive defenders have abandoned it.  Liberal editorial boards from coast to coast—which once would have been inclined to overlook his role in the abuse scandal out of gratitude for his leftism—no longer bother with that charade.

Obviously, Archbishop Gomez can’t prevent Cardinal Mahony from attending the conclave. But he shouldn’t weaken his original rebuke under bullying and factionalism. If anything, he should call on Cardinal Mahony to cease his self-justifying blogging (doesn’t that qualify as a “public” activity beyond ministering at his parish?), which makes the archdiocese look like amateur hour. Even by the low standards of the post-Vatican II Church, a retired bishop launching a public-relations assault on his successor from his blog represents an astonishing display of ecclesiastical dysfunction.

Cardinal Mahony’s clericalist habits are so ingrained that it wouldn’t occur to him that his behavior constitutes an open scandal. He has long confused his perceived personal good with the good of the Church and can’t stop himself now, even though his straining attempts at vindication open the Church up to enormous ridicule during the conclave, a problem that has led at least one Italian cardinal to suggest he sit it out. In an ecclesiastical culture that prized the salvation of souls over a bogus “collegiality” (which usually means letting derelict bishops repair their images and preserve their privileges at the expense of the Church’s common good), such spectacles of egotism would be unthinkable.

Back when the very editorial boards now condemning his participation in the conclave were calling for Cardinal Bernard Law’s demotion, where was Cardinal Mahony? He was eagerly joining the media’s cries for accountability, telling reporters exactly what they wanted to hear: that “he would find it difficult to walk down an aisle in church if he had been guilty of gross negligence.” Now that he finds himself on the receiving end of Law-like coverage, he is crying foul, taking to his blog to play the victim in a series of “Lenten” reflections on his Christ-like suffering. He says that he is working hard to “forgive” his critics.

“Given all of the storms that have surrounded me and the Archdiocese of Los Angeles recently, God’s grace finally helped me to understand: I am not being called to serve Jesus in humility. Rather, I am being called to something deeper—to be humiliated, disgraced, and rebuffed by many,” he wrote.

But he could have accepted Archbishop Gomez’s rebuke and adopted a low profile, in which case this scrutiny would have faded. Instead, he increased his visibility by parrying with Archbishop Gomez, by defying his demotion, and by issuing a stream of non-apology apologies sure to inflame victims, all the while “tweeting” and blogging as if the Los Angeles abuse scandal never occurred.

And now he wonders why he is a target? The public’s anger is simply a response to his clericalist clawing to power.

To read the entire Crisis story, click here.


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  1. So now Cardinal Mahony lies under the weight of the cross and this nobody is going to make a name for himself by flogging him. What a Roman soldier. Too bad he is not a Christian soldier.

    • This guy is too nice to Cardinal Mahony. I think Benedict IX was a more true servant of God than Cardinal Mahony.

      • Maryanne Leonard says:

        This guy is not a nobody. Not only is he a respected journalist and a faithful Catholic, he is a soldier for the truth. Your support of a man who endangered children, protected criminals, and allowed our most innocent members of the Church to be sexually and personally abused is reprehensible.

        Anonymous, you challenged me to keep on thinking as you asserted that I was not fully getting the message that God was trying to send me. In light of your comments here and elsewhere, I feel it is appropriate to suggest additional contemplation to you, as your lockstep support of someone just because he is now a bishop, although a disgraced bishop who has brought us shame and world-wide condemnation, calls into question your own discernment on subjects of importance to us all, most especially including our children.

        If you are against protecting children, in favor of covering up crimes against children, and in favor of priests sexually abusing children and archbishops covering it up and blocking police investigations, I have to say I am questioning your ability to think straight.

        • Maryanne Leonard, this article is not about child abuse, sexual abuse or any of that. And, no, I don’t favor covering up crimes against children or sexual abuse of children. I did not support the bishop. I just pointed out how bad the article was for someone who is supposed to be a Christian to write. There are principles and virtues which define a Christian. It looks like this man just doesn’t like Cardinal Mahony and never did. Hatred for the Cardinal is not love for victims and it is not love for God.

          • “You have heard the commandment imposed on your forefathers. “You shall not commit muder, every murderer shall be liable to judgement.” What I say to you is: everyone who grows angry with his brother shall be liable to judgement; any man who uses abusive language toward his brother shall be answerable to the Sanhedron, and if he holds him in contempt he risks the fires of Gehenna.” Matthew 5:21-22

          • Maryanne Leonard says:

            Anonymous, I have decided to refrain from engaging you in any further exchange of ideas, as I cannot find a rational basis for your comments.

            I will pray for you.

          • The subculture is alive.


            F. Darius Oko, Ph.D.

            “We cannot build our lives on sweet illusions, for only “the truth will set you free” (John 8:32), and that is why “God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of a sound mind” (2 Timothy 1:7).

            The global network of homolobbies and homomafias must be counterbalanced by a global network of decent people.
            All interventions should be made with utmost respect and love for every person, including the abusers. The essence of Christianity is reflected in the will to save everyone, and the worst criminals are especially at risk of losing both their earthly and their eternal life, so they need an especially abundant portion of concern and prayer. The greatness and beauty of Christianity resides also in the fact that Abel here should try not only to save himself, but everybody else too, including Cain.

            In our struggle for the Church of Jesus Christ, we must not be misled by arguments like: “The Church is our mother, and one must not say bad things about one’s mother”. Such words are often heard from those who have hurt their mother the most, who have made her seriously ill, and now refuse to begin the treatment. If the best mother of all is sick, to treat her effectively we need the best possible tools and the best, most accurate diagnosis possible. Thus, we must know about the illness and talk about it. If the Church in Poland is now heading for harder times, if it must prepare itself for persecution, if it must resist and fight, its organism must be healthy and strong, and any gangrene must be removed. President Joachim Hauck said that in the former East Germany the process of cleansing and compensation was opposed most strongly by those who had the most to weigh on their conscience, who had hurt their brothers and sisters the most, who betrayed them the most.”

          • Catherine, thank you for posting what I totally flubbed up saying -That interventions need to be made with the utmost respect and love for every person, including the abusers (and the bishops). And that it requires DECENT people. Thank you, Catherine. Decency is sorely lacking, especially online. I do not necesarily consider myself to be a decent person. It is basically being holy-not mystical, stigmata type of holy, but your everyday person who always chooses the good, instead of the wrong.

        • “I cannot find a rational basis for your comments.” Maryanne, You are right. It is not rational but the pattern of inconsistency is very recognizable.

          One who is thinking clearly does not refer to another human being as being a “nobody” and then immediately berate others for not being Christian.

          Every person, including those who suffer from this disorder, is important in the eyes of God — but the truth should not suffer in order to protect a dis-order.

          • Catherine, you are correct. Calling him a nobody was not christian. Everybody is somebody in the eyes of God.

          • I am the first poster. I apologize for calling him a nobody. I was horrified by the writer’s character assasination of somebody who is clearly suffering. But I was wrong for making a snarky comment. God bless him and Cardinal Mahony and all of you.

    • This “nobody” is much higher on the scale of morality, ethics and respect than someone who actively covered up and conspired to safeguard predators from the law and put them in positions to harm more children.

      If this George Neumayer is a “nobody” then Roger Mahony is way below that. Just because someone made the horrible mistake of putting a red-hat on Roger Mahony’s head does not earn him any kind of consideration.

  2. Messages of Our Lady in Akita, Japan
    Serious Messages for the world, like at Fatima

    Approved Messages of Our Lady of Akita, Japan

    It was on Saturday, October 13, 1973 the anniversary day of the last Apparition of the Virgin Mary to the three children of Fatima, that Mary gave to Sister Agnes Her third Message, the most important and serious one:

    “If men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the Bishops and the priests.

    “The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see Cardinals opposing Cardinals, Bishops against other Bishops. The priests who venerate Me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres (other priests). Churches and altars will be sacked. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises, and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord. The demon will be especially implacable against the souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of My sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will no longer be pardon for them.

    …”Pray very much the prayers of the Rosary.”

    Approval of the local Bishop

    After having himself been an eyewitness of the events, and having carefully investigated them for years, Most Rev. John Shojiro Ito, Bishop of Niigata (the diocese Akita belongs to) declared the events of Akita, Japan, to be of supernatural origin, and authorized throughout the entire diocese the veneration of the Holy Mother of Akita, in a long message which he ordered to be read in every parish of his diocese on Easter Sunday, April 22, 1984.. He said: “The Message of Akita is the Message of Fatima.”

    Approval of Rome

    Bishop Ito went to Rome a third time in June of 1988 to seek the opinion of the Holy See. “I was worried because of the seriousness of the Message,” he said. Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, the Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, reassured Bishop Ito that he had acted properly, and gave definitive judgement on the Akita events and Messages as reliable and worthy of belief.

    • Never heard of this one – sounds like paraphrasing to me of the events of Fatima -

      • Eric, by the same token, you could say that Fatima “paraphrases” the Book of the Apocalypse. Give it a read, and see for yourself.

        • You’d also have to read some of the OT prophets as well, to see how these things open up the battle fronts to our perception.

    • Catherine, I have seen the exact wording of this last paragraph online, but it is not correct. Neither Cardinal Ratzinger nor the Vatican has approved this apparition or ruled on its credibility. The meeting in 1988 consisted of Cardinal Ratzinger allowing the distribution of a letter by Bishop Ito permitting devotion to Our Lady of Akita.

      Editor’s Note: EWTN has this to say of the apparitions — “Despite claims that Cardinal Ratzinger gave definitive approval to Akita in 1988, no ecclesiastical decree appears to exist, as certainly would in such a case. However, some individuals, such as former Ambassador of the Phillipines to the Holy See, Mr. Howard Dee, have stated that they were given private assurances by Cardinal Ratzinger of the authenticity of Akita. In any case, in keeping with the current norms, given the absence of a repudiation of Bp. Ito’s decision by his successors, or by higher authority, the events of Akita continue to have ecclesiastical approval.”

      • The miraclehunter website has information from two sources in the 1990′s- 30 days magazine and Christian Order. Both magazines have websites but their archives do not contain the issues cited by miraclehunter. Can anybody verify?

      • Thank you Editor!

      • On the subject of approved apparitions, the universal church rarely issues any sort of approval. The ‘church’ approval generally remains with the local diocesan bishop, and this is sufficient for church approval. The Fatima apparitions were highlighted due to the fact that several popes so clearly believed, supported, and promoted them, an unusual occurrence. The medjugorje manifestations have been condemned by the local ordinary more than once, and so everyone who follows those events are vainly hoping for a Vatican approval. This won’t happen.

        Akita has the approval of Bishop Ito, and there is no contest to that. It therefore is an approved apparition.

        Fatima has the approval of the local ordinary, so it is an approved apparition. It also has the actions of many popes to add to its ‘worthiness of belief.” I am not aware of a Vatican document that formally approves, in an official manner, the apparition, though there are clearly many that accept it, and treat it with veneration. There is no need for such a document, as it has been approved by the local ordinary.

        Medjugorje has been condemned by two successive local bishops, and therefore is condemned.

    • Mbûkû Kanyau Mbithûka says:

      There is only one thing Catholic’s need to do based on the Message of Fatima.

      “Pray the Rosary Daily for the conversion of Souls”

      Do you do that? This question apply’s to me as to all Catholics.

  3. If he really cared about the Church, he would not attend the conclave to spare the Church any more scandal. But what can be said about a man who looked the other way for so many years while children were being abused? And built a massive edifice of modernity to himself. And wrecked havoc on the liturgy, all the while ignoring Summorum Pontificum. And cozied up to leftist politicians. And oversaw the disastrous and heretical Religious Education Congress. And etc., etc., etc.

    • Cdl O’Brien, Britain’s senior bishop, and head of the Church in Scotland, has stepped down because he has been outted as a sodomite, and has announced that he will not participate in the conclave.

      • This is totally wrong. The Cardinal Archbishop has not been legally charged with anything. So get your facts straight please.

        He has been accused of inappropriate behavior against priests. And in the English language, that could run the gamut.

        Thinking the worse of someone who has yet to receive a fair hearing reveals some people’s inclination to malice, not to mention legally problematic and lacking in clear judgment.

        • Maryanne Leonard says:

          Seems you are wrong again, Jon. Four priests have accused the Cardinal of sexual advances. The consequences thereof are only now coming to light, but the first one is that Britain will not have a representative at the conclave, and another one is that at least one priest quit the priesthood as a result of this Cardinal’s sexual advances.

          • MLeonard, Review please the meaning of the word “accusation.” The man has not been proven guilty. In our society a person is innocent until proven otherwise. Therefore, comments assuming his guilt are unjust.

        • Paleobotanist says:

          Cardinal Mahony has been a dissident cleric for years…his stamp of “modernism”, liberalism, and “pro homosexual agenda”…along with his complicity in the cover-up of a number of pederast priests’ who sexually assaulted hundreds of children over a period of many years…has caused this man to become a lightning rod for scrutiny, derision and disdain for many of the catholic faithful, me included…even many priest’s have been hesitant to show support for his many failings…”by their fruits you shall recognize them”…

          • Yes. Exactly! Many people do not like Cardinal Mahony because of the decisions that he made during the time he was Archbishop of LA. The documents recently released add to it. He is a lightning rod, as you say, for peoples derision and disdain. At least you admit it and don’t hide behind “the victims.” The above article is about a blog that Cardinal Mahony wrote. It is a criticism of his character. It has nothing to do with justice for victims. Thank you for being honest.

        • Paleobotanist says:

          Gee Jon… you use that word “malice” pretty freely… maybe too freely… guess when the family of children in the Archdiocese went to authorities after they found out a particular priest in the archdiocese molested their kid, they were just being “malicious”, a “spite” against the clergy, is that right? When the authorities arrested this particular cleric, for molestation, I guess it was out of “spite”, not due to the fact the man committed a felony, or to protect minors from a known sexual predator… it was all solely motivated out of spite…

          • It is indeed malice to readily assume a person is guilty even before his trial. It shows the person has already formed a judgement, even before the person has been tried. And in our legal process, this is injustice. So, yes, malice, indeed.

          • Paleobotanist says:

            Don’t confuse repulsion and derision for “malice”… your understanding of that word’s definition is not applicable to anybody’s statement Jon. You should answer my question that I have already asked you… “What are your impressions of an Archbishop who knowingly conceals documents and information from the authorities, which allowed pederast priests to further sexually assault hundreds of children, due to this oversight”?

          • You have just contradicted yourself Pale. To deride someone is to exhibit malice. My use of the word then is justified by your own comment.

        • jon, you can’t have it both ways. Here you insist that we keep our mouths shut until a judge renders a verdict and all appeals have run their course and history books have recorded the judgment is stone; yet, you try to alter the judgments against death row inmates.

          • Dan Catholic says:

            Great point Jon. You are right to point out Skai’s and Maryanne Leonard’s unjust comments assuming the guilt of someone who has yet to receive even a trial.

            Lastly, Skai’s last point about altering the judgments against death row inmates? Another red herring from him, if you ask me.

          • Paleobotanist says:

            Nobody assumed the guilt of this man… his accusers are priests… one is a former priest…the Cardinal has not even denied the allegations… he did step down and resign… wonder why?… it seems unimaginable that 2 priests, would choose to accuse the Cardinal of Scotland of sexual advances and more… what would be their reason… spite?… highly unlikely… furthermore, he never even denied these allegations, which also tells me a lot… “by their fruits you shall recognize them”….

          • Marshall the Surfer says:

            I expressed derision “pal jon”, not malice… I also expressed repulsion and anger at the way these wayward clerics have comported themselves, bringing “grave” scandal to the office of the ministerial priesthood”… the shame they have presented… is for all to sicken at… your argument is without merit… this is not a court of law… if it were, Cdl Mahony and many of his fallen priests (who are pederasts by definition) would invariably be “imprisoned” for child endangerment, obstruction of justice and more… much more… you should spend some time reading the abuse documents, prominently posted on the internet… it may give you some insight into these “fallen” clergy, their shocking and diabolic behavior… that you choose to champion… “by their fruits you shall recognize them”…

        • jon, O’Brien has resigned and will not be voting in the conclave.
          The Pope accepted his resignation prior to his 75th Birthday.
          Perhaps the Pope knows more than we do.

          • Betty, Please. Even the Pope, unless the Cardinal has confessed to him, wouldn’t know if he’s guilty or not. Only a court of law can determine that, short of a confession.

          • jon, you’re still hung up on the issue being a legal issue … likely because you can’t claim anything here to be your “living magisterium”.

          • Skai again you miss the point.

            The issue I’m bringing up Skai is what you are in vain trying to deflect: the issue of already condemning someone publicly who is yet considered by society as innocent until proven otherwise. Already you have said that he “has been outed” as a homosexual. THAT is what is wrong.

            If we give way to you, any accusation leveled against anyone, even if it’s false, has already made the accused guilty. THIS is what is at stake here. And a very important one, in my book, the living Magisterium notwithstanding!

            So, Skai you are completely wrong.

      • Mark from PA says:

        Skai, we don’t know that the Cardinal sodomized anyone. You seem very quick to judge here. According to the report he was “inappropriate”. I wonder if there have been times when you have acted inappropriate with someone. I seems that the Cardinal is no saint, but then again very few are.

        • Paleobotanist says:

          Many of these pederasts are in serious denial… they lie, even after they are “busted”… for some of these clerics, it takes many years for them to come clean and admit… “yes I am gay”… and I am guilty”… read the documents, many of these pederast priests openly admit they are homosexual… sodomy is a sin so grave, “it cries to Heaven for vengeance”….

          • Mark from PA says:

            Paleobotanist, we don’t know if the Cardinal is a “pederast”. He was inappropriate with adults, so it seems. If he came on to subordinates then he put them in a scary and awkward position. Most gay priests haven’t abused anyone. This man may very well be gay but it is difficult to admit to people “yes I am gay” because of fear of prejudice and discrimination. It would be good if gay bishops were open about it but many are probably afraid so they keep silent. From what I have read Cardinal O’Brien has actually said anti-gay things. If he is gay, some of the things he has said show poor judgement and lack of compassion. I have read that some closeted gay men put down gay people as a means of gaining favor from people that dislike gays. That is pretty sad.

          • Paleobotanist says:

            Mark, if you spend anytime at all reading these documents, as I have, you will find that a number of these priests after they were in counseling and/or arrested for sexually assaulting young men/boys, openly admitted that they were homosexual… this is a fact without equivocation… I don’t dislike gays… I disapprove of men who are homosexual in orientation and rather than leave the ministerial priesthood, they scandalize the office by having clandestine romances, with other gay men in the community… and worse, molesting underage boys… Trying to stick up for the Cardinal seems pretty absurd… his accusers are both Catholic priests at least one was a former priest, and he did not even deny the allegation… prudently he stood down though… and should quietly fade from sight… he has provided grave scandal to the ministerial priesthood and the office of Archbishop, if all of this is true… “by their fruits you will recognize them”

          • The NYT has a good article on this situation.

        • Yeah, right PA, the priests accused him and he quit and won’t go to the conclave because he is guilty of making funny faces at people. Dude, get real: there is no other explanation.

          • Mark from PA says:

            Skai, the reports are that he was sexually inappropriate with subordinates but don’t say exactly what he did. One writer comments that “Gay men in the Vatican are giving the rest of us a bad name.” He wrote about the harm done to themselves, to the Church and to others by closeted gay priests living secretive sexual lives within a clerical culture that denigrates homosexuals. It would be good if the Church would be more honest about this. We need to move to healthier places as a faith community.

  4. WHAT IF–just what if–we couldn’t judge Archbishop Gomez’ motives, and his reason for asking for prayers weren’t anything craven as we’re so quick to imagine.

    You know, what if there were a good man, I mean, a really good, just, innocent man. Why, the world would completely misunderstand & misjudge him, in fact, would condemn him, because it lacks the goodness, justice and innocence with which to reflect the reality of His nature.

  5. R.B. Rodda says:

    It really is jaw-dropping to reflect on the negative impact Cardinal Roger Mahony had on the Catholic Church as the Archbishop of Los Angeles. During his tenure:

    * He covered-up numerous cases of pedophilia and teen rape by priests.

    * He fought for years and spent millions to contain the hidden pedophile/teen rape information.

    * Vocations to the priesthood continued to dry-up. He characterized this crisis as one of the “fruits” of Vatican Council II.

    * He treated the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass as a stage to let people know that he was going to do whatever he wanted to do and to hell with everyone else.

    * He ruined the financial health of the archdiocese — once perhaps the wealthiest archdiocese in the USA built upon decades of real estate speculation.

    * He sold archdiocesan real estate that took generations to amass. Resources that will be needed in the future (and will never be able to be replicated) by future generations once the archdiocese heals from the wounds caused his leadership.

    * He tried to knock-down St. Vibiana’s Cathedral on the sly, on the weekend — one of Los Angeles’ oldest and most historic structures.

    * He spent over $200M on a cathedral that offends and antagonizes millions.

    * He looted the cemetery maintenance fund of over $100M.

    How could the Church tolerate having a man like this as an (arch)bishop for 36 years? The amount of damage he did was profound — it will be felt for generations.

    • Paleobotanist says:

      R.B… your ability to synthesis Cdl Mahony’s horrific record as Archbishop leaves me completely saddened and bewildered…. Saint Vibiana’s? I was confirmed in this beautiful Cathedral…

      • Only an emergency restraining order by the LA Conservancy saved St. Vibiana’s.

        I remember watching a crane removing the cupola from the top of the bell tower. It was being televised live on a Saturday morning as if it was a car chase. Someone from the Conservancy found out about it and found the right judge to issue the restraining order on the spot.

        Otherwise one of LA’s oldest structures would have been lost.

    • Liberals can not help themselves. “He ruined the financial health of the diocese…. once the wealthiest in the USA.” Sounds like another Liberal who is ruining the financial health of the entire USA. Liberals who like to ruin commerce are sincere in their beliefs that they know what is best for all the rest of us.

      • R.B. Rodda says:

        This has nothing to do with being “liberal.” This has everything to do with being a terrible leader — a poor shepherd.

        FWIW, LA’s great monetary wealth (which paid for many dozens of parishes) was largely the work of Monsignor Benjamin Hawkes. A master financier under both Cardinals McIntyre and Manning.

        Hardly a “conservative”, the long dead Hawkes was recently identified as another alleged pedophile by two victims. Refer to the recent story in the Daily News of the San Fernando Valley.

    • R.B. that is astounding and I am also saddened as well, how could there be such dereliction of duty by him and his superiors?? How??

      • R.B. Rodda says:

        Because bishops and archbishops are virtual kings. They all report directly to the pope. There is very little oversight and the Church seems very unwilling to make changes once it’s clear a mistake was made in appointing a given bishop.

        I suspect it was quite clear by 1995 that Cdl Mahony was a horrible archbishop yet he was allowed to continue for what, another 16-17 years. That should never have been allowed.

    • Thank you R.B. Rodda for your thoughtful list. I learned several new things.

  6. I heard in the news last night that cardinal mahony presided over the Sunday mass at the cathedral of our lady of the angels in los angeles yesterday morning. Did archbishop Gomez know about this? Also; does anyone know if cardinal mahony was allowed to participate in the los angeles religious education Congress this past weekend in Anaheim?

  7. Thomas Edward Miles says:

    Be assured, there are many bishops on the left and the right that should be removed from office by the new pope, thereby holding them accountable!!!!

  8. Prof.Helen McCaffrey says:

    A priest friend told me the Cardinal wears a “hair shirt”. He should up it to “hair” long johns.

  9. Cardinal Mahony will answer to Jesus some day and all of his self righteousness will dissolve into fear and trembling.

  10. Let’s hope that Archbishop Gomez realizes what a scandal is being created and again firmly corrects Cardinal Mahony for his own good and the good of the whole Catholic Church.

  11. ““Given all of the storms that have surrounded me and the Archdiocese of Los Angeles recently, God’s grace finally helped me to understand: I am not being called to serve Jesus in humility. Rather, I am being called to something deeper—to be humiliated, disgraced, and rebuffed by many,” he wrote.” Well, Emminence, if what you say is true, then do like Jesus did and keep your mouth shut.

  12. George Neumayr is always able to get to the heart of the matter. In this case he has clearly described Cardinal Mahony’s MO and personality. I wonder if it is possible that the cardinal’s passport could be confiscated since he is a flight risk if he leaves the country (for the Vatican). I hate to see him tainting the papal election process.

  13. Cardinal Roger Mahony caused great damage to the Church in Los Angeles. The liturgy here is in a terrible state through his work. He now brings shame to the entire Church.

  14. I still think Cardinal Mahony should not participate in this conclave. I am sure he is already preparing his suitcase to fly to the Vatican. Someone should stop him. It is a disgrace he will be welcome to participate in such an important vote in our Church.

    • If only Card. Mahoney would follow the path of Card. O’Brien and recuse himself from the conclave. Though I’m not holding my breath that this will happen.

      • Kenneth M. Fisher says:


        In spite of all the liberal claptrap, committing suicide is still serious matter and probably mortal sin. Holding your breath for that to happen would most probably be suicide!

        God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
        Kenneth M. Fisher

  15. What gets me are the people who stick up for him! Even here!

    • Abeca Christian says:

      yes Convert I agree….don’t let that discourage you….the Lord is great! Jesus is the doctor of all sinners, He will see to it what they need to heal and hopefully they will choose Christ instead of their bad will.

      The ability to reason well is dictated on what types of sins are dominating them. We are all sinners but not all blinded severely by their sins.

  16. More fallout over the weekend in Britain where an Archbishop is being accused by former seminarians of inapprporate behavior, probably due to neutralizing another Papal Conclave vote. At least the laity can now see the division and backstabbing politics in the Vatican, whichi has always been there but never publicized.

    Cardinal Mahoney is the new poster child for everything that is wrong with the Church’s leadership. As long as he continues to have a public role of any kind, such as at the Conclave, the Church’s many transgressioins will remain everpresent in the public eye, thus driving down lay support of the Church.

    These guys just don’t get it….

  17. Maryanne Leonard says:

    Cardinal Law, Cardinal Mahony, now Cardinal O’Brien . . . maybe they should form a singing group, “The Three Disgraced Cardinals.”

    The big problem today is that too many more cardinals will want to join them, and too many misguided, possibly also misbehaving, California Catholic Daily commenters who support cardinals no matter what sins they have committed, will buy their records in staunch support of anything or anyone with a red hat, or red dye marks on their heads indicating where a red hat once rested before a series of stunning scandals disenhatted these disgraced Cardinals.

    How is it that semi-intelligent people stand up for serial murderers like Dorner and his ilk, some even marrying them, and that semi-intelligent Catholics take the sides of sinful, disgraced, scandalized Cardinals? It seems they are stupidly standing with evil and standing against Godliness.

    This would be idiotic even if there were no such thing as Judgment Day; to promote evil and stand against good is to endanger everyone in any human society, including themselves and other misguided souls who choose evil over good.

    • Mbûkû Kanyau Mbithûka says:

      This is a concerted effort to attack and destroy the Holy and Apostolic Church. What these men are trying to do together with their supporters at LCWR and the likes is change what the Church teaches to be what the Democratic Party and its international socialist network teaches.
      The same way they coarse other institutions such as Susan G Komen, AARP, Unions, Media and all sorts of groups to be front groups for the their socialist agenda is the same thing they are trying to do with the Catholic Church. Unfortunately for them they took on more than they can chew.

      Over at Rorate Caeli blog is some chilling stuff about just how evil some of these people are. Its beyond disturbing how far and reaching the gay clergy have gotten into the Church. There is a very good reason why most Bishop talk and do nothing. They are ether part of the conspiracy or they are scared stiff of the moles and do not want to give up their necks for Christ.
      Tell you what, we need saints in the clergy, and lots of them.

      • Maryanne Leonard says:

        On the priestly level, I say we have many, though of course not all. No one knows this better than I, but the sexually and/or personally abused children all around the world know it just the same. We do have many wonderful priests and nuns, though; let’s not forget that, and let’s not denigrate the whole lot for the sins and crimes of a few rotten apples.

        To denigrate the whole lot of them would be incorrect as well as hurtful and possibly even psychologically damaging to those living consecrated lives honoring Jesus Christ and contributing to the good of humankind.

        I realize your comment is correct, we do need saints in the clergy now more than ever, and lots of them; and thankfully we do have quite a few.

        My fear is that the good priests and nuns may be getting worn down by all the negative comments, and other young people may be dissuaded thereby to choose to live consecrated lives, at great loss to themselves and to all of us.

        We must remember to praise goodness wherever we find it just as fearlessly as we denounce evil, and those among us who choose the higher ground will be elevated all the more and help good to triumph over evil in the end as we know is promised in the Bible.

    • Paleobotanist says:

      MaryAnne…I almost wonder if these “supporter’s” of the fallen clergy, who post with regularity on this website, and champion these “shameful” men…are really using this forum as just a mean’s for debate?…Think about it…their defense of these men is so “over-the-top”…it almost seems disproportionate…

      • Maryanne Leonard says:

        Paleobotanist, I have noted that many if not most of the defenders of the fallen clergy tend to be people who are protective of fallen priests who are obviously homosexual; e.g., Cardinal O’Brien. I’ve been curious about the defenders of fallen clergy myself and have tentatively surmised that they seem to fall into three categories: homosexuals, the profoundly unsophisticated, and those who seem to be suffering from Stockholm syndrome.

        Employing either reason or Christian principles, the fallen clergy are in an indefensible position, and they know it; however, inexplicably, their defenders take up their cause and attack those who have dared to denounce the evil the fallen clergy have obviously committed.

        They even use principles of the American legal system to denounce those of us who believe this evil has taken place against children and even against priests lower on the hierarchy than the sexual perpetrators.

        While it is predictable that a few misguided commentors will post inane defenses of the fallen clergy, the majority of these people will stoop immediately to personal attacks against individuals such as myself who aresaddened by reports of fallen clergy, who, if you will notice, are mostly homosexuals.

        Having said that, I fully expect to become attacked personally since, of course, some priests are equal opportunity abusers and go after both males and females, and others are heterosexual abusers of those who place their personal and spiritual trust in their priests.

        I thank you for your interesting and sane posts in defense of the teachings of the Catholic Church, Paleobotanist, and acknowledge your uplifting admiration of truth. Stay strong, my friend, our numbers are not what they once were, but truth will set us free.

        • Marshall the Surfer says:

          I agree MaryAnne…though i’m not sure it’s “Stockholm Syndrome”…maybe something a little less exotic…how about “reaction formation”…an obvious defense mechanism, that is easily identifiable…truth be told, I think “one” individual who blogs regularly, and uses a “latin” moniker is actually more interested in “debate” then truth…his whole presentation seems like a “lower division” college debate, complete with terms like “red herring and “straw man argument”… right out of my old rhetoric 101 course from decades ago…

  18. Paleobotanist says:

    One more thing Jon…what would you call an Archbishop that conceals documents and information from the authorities, which allowed pederast priest’s to resume sexually assaulting children in the archdiocese?

  19. We live in a culture where 9 year old girls are called the c-word. Christian witness of love for all is extremely important now. Big deal if you don’t like something Cardinal Mahony wrote! Turn your cheek and go do an act of mercy or something. People here like to use the expression “Man up.” You should “Christ up” instead.

    • Anon, Jesus Christ used a whip to beat evil men who were disfiguring His Father’s House. “Christ up” yourself!

      • You think Jesus beat the moneychangers? There is another poster who believes that the gospel is a gay plot to undermine the church! What is wrong with people here?

      • Awesome comment Anonymous. Indeed one should do that which you suggested, rather than throwing scandal upon scandal by publicly castigating bishops, priests, cardinals. This behavior ain’t Catholic.

        • Marshall the Surfer says:

          “Sexually assaulting children” when you’re a member of the ministerial priesthood and “Catholic behavior” either…my friend….

  20. Yes brazen clericalism….because it is Cardinal Mahoney. There are conservative priests, bishops and cardinals who engage in similar behavior and yet….they are given wide latitude. I hope the next Pope engages in some major housecleaning. God Bless us all!

  21. The most evident mark of God’s anger, and most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world, is manifest when He permits His people to fall imto the hands of a clergy who are more in name then deed, priests who practice the cruelty of ravening wolves rather then the charity and affection of devoted shepherds. They abondon the things of God to devote themselves to the things of the world and, in their saintly calling of holiness, they spend their time in profane and worldy pursuits. When God permits such things, it is a very positive proof that He is thoroughly angry with His people, and is visiting His most dreadful wrath upon them. — St. John Eudes

  22. Voice of the Faithful liked this article too.

  23. Given the recent decision by Cardinal O’Brien of Scotland to recuse himself from the conclave, for the good of the Church, I believe Cardinal Mahony should make the same decision.

    At least Cardinal O’Brien took the high road (no Scottish pun intended) and immediately said he would stay home and keep the conclave “clean” of his mess.

    • Cardinal O’Brien was asked to resign.
      Two days prior to his resignation, he publically came out in favor of Priests marrying so they could have sex.
      Check it out on the internet. Is is also all over the secular British newspapers.

  24. Cardinal Mahony should resign.
    Cardinal Mahony should not vote in the conclave.
    Cardinal Mahony should stay completely away from the public, and all forms of public media.

  25. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

  26. Marshall the Surfer says:

    Wow…what an article…it’s as if Cardinal Mahony was on a crusade to run counterclockwise to all that was expected from an Archbishop…a priest told me at lunch last week that the seminary in Camarillo only has turned around since Archbishop Gomez was installed as the spiritual shepherd of the archdiocese…prior to that it was fortress of “the lavender mafia.”

    • Maryanne Leonard says:

      Marshall the Surfer, I believe the slur you just passed on about St. John’s Seminary, quoting priestly gossip without giving us a priestly name, is not accurate. St. John’s Seminary is still suffering from scandal that has been cleaned up many years ago.

      If you visit St. John’s Seminary a few times a year, as I do, and know seminarians there and those in charge, as I do, and know a couple of priests who attended years ago and in recent years, as I do, I believe you will have a completely different song to sing about St. John’s Seminary.

      I like and admire Archbishop Gomez and am still managing to have high hopes for his willingness to clean up the Religious Education Congress, for example, but the cleansing of the seminary was accomplished years ago, in fact a generation ago.

      Isn’t it terrible how the stench of scandal remains in the air for so very long?

      I fear that very stench, such as that created by the scandal surrounding Archbishop Mahony, may permeate the smoke rising from the Vatican in the coming days and cause the shadow of scandal to remain on our Church long after such men have met their Maker.

      Eventually good will win out over evil, eventually people will honor St. John’s Seminary for what it is once again, and eventually the world will acknowledge that the Holy Roman Catholic Church is the greatest institution ever created for the good of mankind.

      • Marshall the Surfer says:

        Gee…I sure hope so…because the priest I had lunch with 2 weeks ago, on a Lenten Friday… said that it’s only been since Archbishop Gomez became the “shepherd of the archdiocese”, that this turnaround has taken place…I am inclined to believe him, as my past experience with the place was a “little less then wonderful” as well…shall we say…I want a holy seminary for our future priest’s, to learn and grow in holiness as well…truthfully, the turnaround was not many,many years ago uh-uh…I know Maryanne, I was up there…furthermore, it’s no more gossip then people making assumptions about overseas clerics and their “less then wonderful behavior”…see my point?

        • Maryanne Leonard says:

          Well, I believe this is something that can be known only to God and the seminarians at this point, but I accept your comments as those of someone who was there, unlike myself. Knowing the happy and dedicated seminarians I’ve seen there and talked with on several occasions, I just don’t think they are troubled by any heavy psychological burdens that such a situation as you’ve described, nor have they seemed to have been in the years that I have been visiting. I think it’s a wonderful seminary, and it is run by knowledgeable and good people, and I have faith.

  27. Marshall the Surfer says:

    Priest’s and Bishops who conceal information and documents from the authorities, which furthers the ongoing molestation of children…need to be castigated…in fact they need to be defrocked and laicized….and imprisoned….

    • Maryanne Leonard says:

      Yes, indeed. Tried before imprisoning, of course, since this is still the United States of America, despite our having a president who acts as if it is the United States of Obama.

      But tried before a jury of their peers? Let’s hope there aren’t enough evil ordained men to try such criminals, meaning they will have to be tried by a jury of their betters.

  28. Marshall the Surfer says:

    To illustrate my point further Maryanne…I can think of at least 2 priest’s who were busted for sexually assaulting young men/boys, in the Archdiocese, they are on the webpage… they are both graduates of St. John’s Seminary College…they both admitted this freely… on one “document”… you can read for yourself, whereby he openly admits it…that he is “gay”…the “truth” is a liberating and sobering reality…

    • Maryanne Leonard says:

      Oh, yes, Marshall, I know these things definitely happened in the past in that setting, and it was nightmarish to read of it when it was first exposed.

      The point I was making was that I don’t believe the cleaning up of Saint John’s Seminary can rightly be credited to Archbishop Gomez, not that I don’t like him personally and place much hope in him for continuing improvement of his diocese and the Catholic culture of Southern California in general.

      I just believe that the cleaning house there indeed happened during Cardinal Mahony’s “reign,” though I’m not sure who is to be credited for the housecleaning. Usually house cleaners don’t get the credit they deserve.

      If anyone reading this knows more about the timing of this housecleaning and/or who exactly oversaw it, I would indeed be interested, as I am considering leaving something to Saint John’s Seminary to help keep young priests supported and of course want to make sure the funds do the most good possible by going to the right places.

      If you are loathe to share details on this forum for privacy or other reasons, then please contact me at maryanne dot leonard at verizon dot net. I will hold your comments in confidence.

  29. Marshall the Surfer says:

    According to the priest I spoke with Maryanne, if Cdl Mahony had been left to clean up the seminary, it would be in a dreadful state of affairs… as most of what he has been involved with, has “soured” his liturgical abuses, his absorption in socialism and immigration… his stance on homosexuality and the “rainbow” faction in the Church… instead of standing on the “right” side of traditional Catholic values… he chose to run counterclockwise, almost in open defiance to all that is “traditionally” Catholic… his “stonewalling” of authorities on critical documents, concerning molestation shows his desire to conceal, rather then embrace transparency… which is truly liberating… now finding out he was caught “shaking the till” by gouging millions of dollars from the Catholic Cemetery and Funeral fund for the Archdiocese… money he used to pay for out of court settlements, because many of the priests (who graduated from Saint John’s) were involved in the sexual assault of potentially hundreds of children and young adults… his legacy as a spiritual shepherd is gravely scandalous and made even more maddening at his denial and rationalization of these matters… likening himself as a “scapegoat” and even as some kind of “martyr”… those priests who defend him are obviously defending the abuse and lifestyle of these “depraved clerics, who gave shame and scandal to the glorious office of the ministerial priesthood…

  30. Paleobotanist says:

    What Jon fails to understand is that Cardinal Mahony has been found “guilty”… by his own admission he is guilty… he is guilty of moving known priests from one parish to another… EVEN after they had been found guilty of “sexually assaulting children” in the Archdiocese… I’m not sure what Jon’s “disconnect” is on this matter… the documents, when read, articulate without equivocation his complicity in moving known pederast priests from one parish to another… even after they were removed from active ministry and provided counseling for sexually assaulting under age boys… his argument is without any merit…

  31. Sorry Palebot, but your last statement has just shot your entire argument on the foot. You claim that Cardinal Mahony “has been found ‘guilty’… by his own admission he is guilty.” WRONG! No where has he said that. He may indeed be guilty, but no court of law has determined that, in which case prudence dictates that ascribing to him guilt is STILL UNJUST!

  32. Paleobotanist says:

    Jon…you have still not answered my question…”what would you call an Archbishop, who knowingly moved priest’s to other parishes, even after they were told by the priests them self… and the therapist involved in the treatment modality, that the priest was had committed sexual assault on a minor?…what would you call that Archbishop?…what would they be guilty of?…please answer the question…Cdl Mahony asked people to pray for him due to his sins of omission and commission, on his blog…read the transcipt Jon…he was provided concrete “proof”, out of the mouth of the offending priests, and the therapist who treated him…and still he chose to move that “known” sexual predator to yet another parish!, exposing vulnerable children to this “sex offender”…

  33. Paleobotanist says:

    Cdl mahony’s admission of guilt is not verbal…his guilt is found in “the transcript’s” themselves…he “knowingly” and with full consent, moved known sexual predator’s to still other churches…

  34. Paleobotanist says:

    One more thing Jon…Cdl. Mahony’s “guilt” concerning his negligence when dealing with “clergy” abuse is common knowledge, and this information is readily available on the internet…He may never articulate his guilt…but his “actions” of complicity speak volumes…in fact, it is well established that he “transferred” priest’s that “sexually assaulted” children to other parishes, even after these intelligence’s were shared with him vis a vis, the offending priest as well as the psychologist, who was involved in some element of their treatment modality…this is a fact, without equivocation…have you personally read any of the transcript’s that have been posted since last month?

  35. Paleobotanist says:

    Cdl Levada has stated… “Cdl Mahony has apologized, what more can he do”?… Gee, gosh golly…I wish everyone who makes mistakes of this magnitude can say, “I’m sorry”…and everything is just “hunky-dory”…This type of brazen, smug cavalierness, is the very behavior that has “flamed” this topic…BIGTIME!…The scope and magnitude of Cdl Mahony’s malfeasance is staggering!… even beyond the horrific magnitude of the child, sex abuse scandal…the years of “fighting” to conceal these documents, the attorney payouts, for his defense… and the “jaw-dropping” settlement to evade being on trial is unconscionable… couple this with his flagrant secularization of the liturgy, his pandering to “active” homosexual’s and now the “cemetery fund” debacle…and you hear…”I’m sorry?….unreal…

    • For one, Mahony can rat out all the pedos and other sodomites he knows and expose all the corruption he is aware of.

    • Catherine says:

      More compromises!

      Cardinal Levada recently made this statement at St. Patrick’s Seminary in Menlo Park.

      On February 25, 2013, Cardinal Levada drew a sharp divide between gay men and pedophile priests.

      “By nature homosexuality is a not a predatory activity, it is a sexual activity that the Catholic church does not condone,” he said. By contrast, he said pedophile priests are violating the sanctity and purity of young people.”

      In 2000, a police sting operation caught the academic dean of St. Patrick’s Seminary, Fr. Carl A. Schipper, soliciting online for sex. Fr. Schipper was arrested on March 2, 2000. According to an article by San Francisco Faith:

      “The 57 year-old priest fell under police suspicion in September while an investigation into the reported molestation of another 13-year-old boy yielded Schipper’s America Online screen name, which was written on the boy’s hand. Schipper is not a suspect in that case. San Jose police are examining the computers’ memory caches at Schipper’s home and his office at St. Patrick’s seminary. Police are also looking into America Online archives to see if there were other juveniles involved. When asked if the solicitations were occurring from St. Patrick’s seminary itself, Sergeant Hewitt of the San Jose Police department told this writer there was ample reason to obtain a search warrant for Schipper’s offices at St. Patrick’s.”

      A look at the index of Michael S. Rose’s Goodbye, Good Men shows that the St. Patrick’s Seminary is mentioned four times in the book, and not favorably.

      • Catherine says:

        May 26, 2011

        John Jay Study: A $2 million exercise in political correctness

        By Louie Verrecchio *

        On May 18, researchers from the John Jay College of Criminal
        Justice released their long-awaited final report, “Causes and Context of Sexual Abuse of Minors by Catholic Priests in the United States, 1950-2010.”

        The research team, led by Karen Terry, Ph.D., gathered an impressive amount of information from which they drew a number of conclusions; the most unsettling of which is the claim that homosexuality is unrelated to the abuse (particularly of adolescent males, the primary victims in the crisis.)

        Though 81 percent of the victims were post-pubescent males, researchers downplayed the homosexual connection by suggesting that this simply reflects the fact that offenders had greater access to boys. The report also proposes the possibility that, “Although the victims of priests were most often male, thus defining the acts as homosexual, the priest did not at any time recognize his identity as homosexual.”

        A less politically correct conclusion, it would seem, is to acknowledge that the offending clerics were perhaps unwilling to take “ownership” of their struggle with homosexuality. In any event, this line of argument appears to be little more than a red herring.

        According to Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons, a consultant to the Vatican Congregation for Clergy and a leading expert on clerical sex abuse, how an abuser may “recognize” himself is not entirely relevant; rather, the homosexual acts alone testify to “deep seated” homosexuality.

        “We are identified by our behavior,” Dr. Fitzgibbons said in a recent telephone interview. “The attempt to distance the homosexual acts in question from a personal struggle against SSA (Same Sex Attraction) on the part of the abuser is inconsistent with clinical data.”

        Information found in the report itself also strongly suggests that the abuse is directly related to homosexuality. For instance: “This excuse (that the victim initiated physical intimacy) was particularly common for priests who were accused of abusing adolescents, who referred to the abuse as a ‘relationship.’”

    • Mahony can make an attempt to continuously pay back the contractual LA cemetary fund which he took money from to help pay his $660 MILLION dollars in fines.
      And live extremely modestly, rather than as a wealthy/kingly person.

      Mahoney can stay out of the public entirely as a hermit,
      and devote himself to prayer for the rest of his life.
      Praying for his victims, and for the Church, for the LA Diocese, the damage he has done at the USCCB, Bishop’s California Catholic Conference, and elsewhere, and all those he sinned against, – including sins of omission.

      And before he lives as a hermit, he must try to PUBLICALLY undo all the SCANDAL and damage he has perpetraited by his own actions or omissions – using the Catechism of the Catholic Church in entirety as his required guide.
      This includes the sins of losing Souls by making the temperal (earthly) more important than eternity (heaven or hell) during his wasted lifetime role of authority within the Church in the USA.

      TRUE Repentance – requires RESTITUTION and REPARATION.

      God is showing mercy to Mahony by allowing him to live, so that he will have time to make restitution and reparation, and prove that he is sorry rather than merely giving lip service.
      The issue is – will he use his last years wisely and with humility, or merely try to engrandize himself in the public eye?

  36. Anonymous says:

    Jesus said to forgive as often as your brother says he is sorry. Many Christians and Catholics value themselves and believe in God’s love for them only in as much as they love and forgive. There are other people who take advantage of this. Whenever confronted, they say they are sorry and they expect no consequences. However, the consequences for victims of childhood sexual abuse are life-long and include shattered life, shattered mind, shattered soul, shattered family, shattered relationships. . It is caused by psychological abuse. All sexual abuse is psychological abuse. The abuser does not have to intend harm to cause it. The reactions of those not involved with the case are another burden that the victims have to bear. Almost all victims have flashbacks when stories appear. Some find the comments of others extremely distressing. Some victims have to go through years of counseling to realize that the abuse was not their fault. Very many victims blame themselves for a time. Sometimes victims, while not liking the abuse, have genuine feelings for their abuser. Some victims cooperate with the abuse, usually through a lack of knowledge of how to handle the situation or being too young or trusting to sense the danger. The adult is always responsible. And it is the full responsibility of a preist never to be sexual with anyone. It is believed that most female victims have not reported their case to the Church. Stockholm Syndrome is where the victims identify with and protect their abusers. It is not uncommon in instances where abusers show kindness or love to the victims. Abusive people are not abusive all the time.

    • Don’t worry, Anonymous, Mahony has only to say the word and each victim of his apostacy will feel good.

    • Say, Anonymous, have you actually spent any time with kids who have been horribly abused like these victims of Mahony’s pedophile ring? Maybe you should doink each victim with your magic wand and everything will be good.

    • Maryanne Leonard says:

      Anonymous, you are right about virtually every aspect of the situation victims of sexual abuse suffer. One not-so-minor point: sexual abuse is not “merely” psychological abuse; it is profoundly overwhelming physical, psychological, and sexual abuse all rolled into one.

      The saddest part of this kind of abuse by a member of the clergy is that it is lasting torment. One can spend years in therapy, literally decades, and still find oneself bursting into tears at some unexpected memory that overwhelms one completely, even in settings, such as with important clients or significant family gatherings, where one would profoundly wish to maintain one’s composure. The grievous anguish over matters of faith is perhaps the most serious lasting effect of priestly sexual abuse. When the evil actions of an ordained man separates a member of the flock from his confident faith in God, that clergyman has assaulted Jesus Christ Himself as well as the soul of the anguishing victim, who questions everything she or he thought they knew, now that their world is shattered.

      When a child has resulted from priestly sexual offenses, that child too is profoundly affected; that is, assuming he or she is not murdered before he or she is born.

  37. Ski Ven says:

    Cardinal Mahony: Luke 17:1-2

    • But, Ski Ven, Mahony has said he is sorry. Isn’t that the same as penance? Won’t that restore the damage he caused? Replace the money in the coffers he lost and spent? How about he does a prayer circle? How ’bout he places his hand on each victim and commands them to be healed?

      • If Cdl Levada is covering Mahony, then shouldn’t Levada take part in the “sorry” also? Maybe the both of them should gather together with Cdl Law and supervise the penitants who crawl a half mile over gravel on their bare knees at … Knock, is it? They could be seated on plush thrones while making sure each of the crawling penitants doesn’t take any short cut.

        • Ski Ven says:

          Skai, I think you’re on to something. As long as he double pinky swears that he’s sorry that would make everything okay. He can go on living his life as if nothing ever happened and the victims and the Church will live happily ever after. The end.

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