Mark Shriver to keynote L.A. Religious Ed Conference Saturday

Pro-abort son of pro-life parents
Mark Shriver

Mark Shriver

Mark Shriver is scheduled to be the featured keynote speaker this Saturday morning, February 23, at the Los Angeles archdiocesan Religious Education Congress in Anaheim.

Son of pro-life Eunice Kennedy Shriver and Sargent Shriver, Mark is the brother of Maria Shriver Schwarzenegger and the nephew of Ted Kennedy.

Upon the death of Eunice Kennedy Shriver in 2009, Susan B. Anthony staffers said Mrs. Shriver and her “heart for the most vulnerable” will be “deeply missed. She fought for the dignity inherent in every human life, born and unborn.”

Mark Shriver attended College of the Holy Cross, got a master’s from Harvard, and served in the Maryland House of Delegates from 1994 to 2002. He ran in the Democratic primary for the U.S. House in 2002 but was defeated in the primary.

In a January 8, 2013 release, the Cardinal Newman Society reported on Mark Shriver’s appearance at the University of San Francisco: “Ironically, he will be speaking about his new book A Good Man: Rediscovering My Father, Sargent Shriver which is about his father, a pro-life Catholic.

“While a 2002 candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from Maryland, Mark Shriver stated in a Washington Post interview, ‘Women’s issues are critically important and I will continue to fight for a women’s right to choose; family planning funds; maternal and child health funding and education for girls both here and abroad.’

“The university’s website also touts Shriver being senior vice president of U.S. Programs at Save the Children, a pro-contraceptive charity with reported ties to Planned Parenthood.”

Shriver will speak on  “Faith, Hope and Love in Action” at the Religious Education Congress on Saturday.

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  1. Until speakers like this are no longer welcome, the Religious “Education” Congress will have little to no credibility. Sadly, the post Vatican II era means anyone or anything under the sun is allowed to be called Catholic. We are in dark days indeed. Domine, miserere nobis. +JMJ+

    • I volunteer as a Sunday preschool teacher at my parish. The paid teaching staff invited me to join them at the Religious Education Congress. I desided not to go due to the fact that the Congress was created by Cardinal Mahoney and I have heard some disturbing things about the Congress. Now that I know Mark Shriver was invited to speak, I feel I must share my concerns with the staff, and my parish priest.

    • Laurette Elsberry says:

      Please see the story about the 2013 Los Angeles Religious Education Congress (LA-REC) in The Tidings, the official Los Angeles Archdiocesan newspaper.

      The story begins by boasting:

      “Registrations are pouring in from around the globe for the Los Angeles Religious Education Congress at the Anaheim Convention Center Feb. 21-24, the largest annual international gathering of its kind.”

      Then speaks glowingly of the Saturday, February 23, principal Keynote Speaker Mark Kennedy Shriver:

      Highlighting ways to make a difference, Saturday morning keynote speaker, Mark Shriver, head of Save the Children’s U.S. Programs, will share his father’s example to glean insights about achieving “Faith, Hope and Love in Action.” He will reveal lessons he learned in writing his New York Times best-selling memoir, “A Good Man: Rediscovering My Father, Sargent Shriver,” who created the Peace Corps and expanded the Special Olympics internationally while faithfully attending Mass on a daily basis during his life.

      No mention is made that Mark Kennedy Shriver like the rest of the Kennedy clan has been a militant supporter of the American Holocaust of Abortion in his political career!!!

      “While a 2002 candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from Maryland, Mark Shriver stated in a Washington Post interview, ‘Women’s issues are critically important and I will continue to fight for a women’s (sic) right to choose; family planning funds; maternal and child health funding and education for girls both here and abroad.’”
      OR — that the University of San Francisco’s website touted about Mark Kennedy Shriver “being senior vice president of U.S. Programs at Save the Children, a pro-contraceptive charity with reported ties to Planned Parenthood.”

      Archbishop Jose Gomez needs to get control of the LA-REC.

      Archbishop Jose Gomez also URGENTLY needs to clean up the Tidings so it does not deceive its readers with fulsome praise for celebrity “Catholics” like Mark Kennedy Shriver who promote the Abortion Holocaust and lead any organization with ties to Planned Parenthood, the foremost destroyer of unborn babies, families, marriage, and corrupter of young people!

      ARCHBISHOP GOMEZ must act now to correct this festering evils.

      • Maryanne Leonard says:

        Yes, indeed. It is difficult to understand why these calls for cleaning up the REC are not being heard.

      • Laurette: It’s nice to see your name on this post. I’m from Des Moines, Iowa, and I was a close friend of Father John Clarke, R.I.P., who I believe had ongoing communication with you. If Father Clarke was in LA, you’d better believe the bishop would know about this heretical conference with pro-abort Shriver!

        I just hope and pray that the LA Catholics who are up in arms about this travesty will send the bio of Mark Shriver to Archbishop Gomez. If he receives hundreds of them, in addition to being deluged with phone calls demanding Shriver to be disinvited, then what’s he going to do? If he’s an orthodox bishop, he WILL do the right thing. If he does nothing, then you can be sure he’ll never be another St. John Fisher!

        Good luck! I’ll be praying!

  2. Where is Archbishop Gomez?

    • Mbûkû Kanyau Mbithûka says:

      He is being pastoral.

    • pete salveinini says:

      Maybe he should be filled in on this by huge numbers of LA Catholics

      • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

        Pete,

        CRCOA, Inc. would love to have a large number of Catholics to help us inform those who want to be informed of the many, far too many, heretical speakers at this Congress.

        I intend to make a sign that will read something like this “There are pro-abortion, pro-sodomy speakers at this Congress. Ask the Archbishop, WHY!”.

        Please come and join the “Church Militant” as we prayerfully demonstrate at this Congress.

        For more information, call or Email me at: 714-491-2284/714-260-3821 (Cell)/ crcoa@att.net.

        We also need contributions to pay the expenses of this Demonstration.

        God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
        Kenneth M. Fisher

  3. “While a 2002 candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from Maryland, Mark Shriver stated in a Washington Post interview, ‘Women’s issues are critically important and I will continue to fight for a women’s right to choose; family planning funds; maternal and child health funding and education for girls both here and abroad.” – Mark Shriver.

    Has everyone sent this article to Archbishop Gomez? Abp Gomez has a responsibility for everything “Catholic” that happens within his Diocese.

    Giving a public stage to spew false teachings in Los Angeles must be stopped.

    • Mbûkû Kanyau Mbithûka says:

      At some point we have to realize the bishops simply do not care. Traditional, like the Archbishop of San Francisco or Opus Dei like the Archbishop of Los Angeles. They just do not care about these sorts of things.
      They are first and foremost CEO’s running vast programs, and going to ‘important meetings’.

      • I like this rhetoric, and it gets me to wondering … well, comparing or rather contrasting the bishops’ vast programs and important meetings with Jesus’ creation of all things. Maybe the bishops are getting close to the accomplishments of Jesus, and we simply do not see it yet.

      • No this is not correct. They are both prayerful men. Most of them are. They have a rightful claim to your prayers and your aid. You should not criticize them thus.

        • Mbûkû Kanyau Mbithûka says:

          Where is the fruit? How can Heresy like this go one while people are praying and doing nothing. At some point, even a Monk has to go work the garden. You cannot talk a pray all day while you have a day’s work to do.
          Like both Bishops would tell you, doing your work is important. (Opus Dei?)

          • How often do you send them the info (and documentation) of what is happening within their Diocese?

            The LA Diocese has over 4 million Catholics and spans more than 3 Counties. No where in the Bible does it state that Apostles (Bishops) are mind-readers. Do your own job (Canon 212 #3) before criticising Bishops. The more of us that protest abuses, the sooner they can be addressed by the Bishop.

            We must have a huge uprising of the Faithful that the Bishops and their Priests stop Sacrilege against the “Real Presence” by enforcing Canon 915, and the Bishops excommunicating via Canon 1399 those obstinate in grave sin and causing scandal that loses Souls and destroys society.

        • Anonymous, brilliant insight. You should criticize the Pope for saying that filth has all but overwhelmed the Vatican. How dare he say such a thing, right, Anon?

          • Skai, Your post makes no sense. Why should I criticize the Pope, when I said that our Bishops (the Pope is a bishop) are entitled to our prayers and our aid and should not be criticized by us? You twist things in weird ways. And, to my knowledge, the Pope has not said anything like that.

    • All this talk about contraceptives being about women’s rights just makes me laugh. All it is is a male discovery on how to have marital relations without marriage or any responsibility. It also leads to breast and other cancers and medical problems in women.

  4. Another member of the apostate Kennedy clan…

  5. Maryanne Leonard says:

    “Mama may have, and papa may have, but God bless the child that’s got his own.”

    Mama “had a heart for the most vulnerable,” and Papa “was a Good Man,” but none of those Kennedy children, having been given everything, has anything at all.

  6. Former Altar Boy says:

    The headlining of heretics and apostates at the L.A. Religious Education Congress is not new. What’s sad is nothing has changed under the new bishop. And then the modernists wonder why Catholics are so easily led astray by fundamentalists.

  7. I don’t understand. Mark Shriver has Kennedy attachments but other than that he is a nobody so far as his contributions to Catholic education and the “new evangelization.” What will he say? “My dad was a great guy but he was wrong on women’s reproductive rights? Well, nobody’s perfect.” Why is another pro-abortion democrat given center-stage? Are there not any pro-life politicians worthy of notice? As an aside, I haven’t been to the congress since the early 80s. I would like to know if, besides this silver spoon, there might in contrast be the likes of Scott Hahn or others like him as presenters. I understand Cardinal Mahony didn’t want Hahn et al. at the conference who would promote a strong apologetic orthodoxy. Am I wrong?

    • Maryanne Leonard says:

      Good heavens, what was Scott Hahn’s sin? Being too Catholic for the cardinal? Scott Hahn, with his brilliant mind and tremendous appreciation for the wonders of the Catholic faith, would be perhaps the best teacher the REC ever had!

      If anyone knows the answer to Dan’s question, please share it with us all.

      Thank you.

      • Abeca Christian says:

        Maryanne You are so right on… Scott Hahn is an excellent teacher and would be best.

        • Maryanne Leonard says:

          Maybe he believes that by working where he does and on behalf of EWTN, as well as all his writing and speaking, he is doing all he can and is reaching Catholics who actually want to learn basic truths of Catholic teaching. I would think that daring to face the crowds at the REC, composed as surely it must be of many who tolerate flights from traditional Catholic values and may well be of the same mind, might be a troubling experience if people from the crowd are as off-base as many of our commenters are here. Of course he could just stay outside and chat with Kenneth and the others — they’d probably enjoy each other! ; )

          • Hahn was a speaker there in the past.

          • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

            Maryanne,

            I know Scott Hahn and Beverly personally. I knew him when he first got started and Beverly wasn’t yet Catholic.

            Skai, I have no record of Scott being at the REC!

            God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
            Kenneth M. Fisher

    • Dan, they’re all nobodies. All it takes to rise to power is total committment to abortion, sodomy and so forth. Not a mystery at all how they do it … unless it would be the “mystery of iniquity”.

    • Mbûkû Kanyau Mbithûka says:

      He is getting a fat pay check from it all.

  8. Archbishop Gomez has had two years to clean up the mess at this annual event. When can we expect speakers who accept the Magisterium. The whole show should be closed down and revamped.

  9. So between the Relgious Education Conference and the National Catholic Educational Association (where, for instance, they had Garrison Keillor speak a couple of years ago), it seems clear that pro-life issues are not important in Catholic education.

    Between these organizations, what goes on in Catholic colleges and universities (gay/confused clubs and graduations, heretical teaching by many professors, etc, etc, etc) and (arch-)bishops who look the other way, it’s no wonder things are such a mess!

  10. St. Christopher says:

    What an absolutely foul moral atmosphere exists in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. Why do you all tolerate this any further? The Holy Spirit needs to bring a warrior in as Pope.

  11. Here is a practical suggestion. Do not complain to Abp. Gomez – he has already endorsed the Congress and so called Sister Edith P. (head of Rel Ed for the Archdiocese). Instead make your complaint directly to Bishop Vann….after all, the Congress actually takes place in HIS diocese.

    I think he will be receptive to your concerns.

    • Maryanne Leonard says:

      Yes, the Religious Education Congress does take place in Orange County in Bishop Vann’s diocese, and you have a good point, JimAroo. I think we expected Archbishop Gomez to clean up this mess because so much of it is planned in the greater Los Angeles area archdiocese.

      Your suggestion to contact Bisohp Vann is probably right on target, though, as perhaps that is part of the reason Archbishop Gomez has not acted, other than to rubber stamp the whole dreary mess, at least not so far.

      I wonder why we are expected to tolerate these sorts of scandals for so many years (decades? centuries?) before even the slightest actions are taken by the Church’s ordained representatives. In this postmodern era, are we not reasonable to expect the most important institution in the world to move as if it were at least the 20th century, if not the 21st? How are we to raise the following generations as true Catholics while we are still alive if the Church itself acts in such anachronistic ways? The people are frustrated! And the world is agog that we are permitting this.

    • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

      Jim Aroo,

      CRCOA informed by registered mail both Archbishop Gomez and Bishop Vann about what was going on. No responses yet!

      God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
      Kenneth M. Fisher

  12. Pro-abortion “Catholic” as Key-note speaker at an Archdiocesan Religious Education Annual Event? Wow, how novel.

  13. Please understand that it is Sr. Edith Prendergast who set up the speakers, as she has for many years.

    How much is the pro-abort Shriver getting paid by the LA Archdiocese?

    Is the promotion of killing unborn children worse than covering up sexual abuse? If Archbishop Gomez cancelled Cardinal Mahony as a speaker, then surely he must cancel Shriver.

  14. Archbishop Gomez should be putting an end to this CATHOLIC CIRCUS in Anaheim and putting CATHOLIC ANSWERS in charge of putting it together!

  15. Growing up years ago in MA, i remember well how pro life the Kennedys were at one time, like most everyone. Eunice and Sargent Shriver were a couple that stayed faithful to the Church til the end. Many of us can imagine the heartache they went through watching their loved ones deny the Faith. Please God bring back all our fallen away children.

    • The Diocese Bishops would help a great deal if they would prohibit heretics and schmatics from speaking within their own Diocese.

      And forbid any organization to use the name “Catholic” that does not adhere to the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” completely.

      The Bishops have to stop the confusion, heresy, schism and scandal within their own Diocese. They have the power.

      They can also excommunicate “Catholics” within their own Diocese until they REPENT and REPAIR their own public scandal.

  16. Abeca Christian says:

    For all the parents who have kids who have fallen away from our faith and or the values in which they were raised in…I pray for God to comfort them, to give them strength to continue to persevere in prayer, to help them offer up the disbelief, hurt, shame or embarrassment they are experiencing due to their prodigal/or fallen away child. Also for their younger siblings who may have been scandalized due to such great hurt due to their sibling turning away from God and family. St. Patrick pray for us. Amen

  17. A “woman’s right to choose…” is the best example of a non sequitur that one can imagine.

    An organization called “Save the Children” which works to annihilate children is pure fallacy — it only “saves them” for Moloch.

    Using money to eliminate children and calling it “child health funding” is textbook circumlocution.

    A son of a pro-life stalwart who advocates elimination of the next generation is what gives irony its meaning.

    On second thought, this man Mark Shriver can probably teach us and the Religious Education Conference a lot… if people are paying attention.

    • Maryanne Leonard says:

      Specifically what could this man teach us?

      • It looks like Mark Shriver has specifically been taught to teach others specific ways to end up in hell while dawning the Kennedy trademark smile.

        There is no such thing as a safe and legal abortion. How will Mark Shriver explain away the death of Jennifer Leigh Morbelli, 29 and her murdered daughter Madison. No Catholic Religious Ed Conference should ever invite a speaker who will teach others to also promote and support Jennifer’s right to murder her daughter.

        This conference should be renamed the Diabolical Disorientation Congress of Anaheim.

        Updated Feb. 11, 2013 at 11:05 am.

        GERMANTOWN, Md., Feb. 10, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) — The woman who reportedly died Thursday from complications after a 33-week abortion done by LeRoy Carhart has been identified as Jennifer Leigh Morbelli, 29, a kindergarten teacher from White Plains, New York.

        The pro-life group Operation Rescue and pro-life blogger Jill Stanek each say that they independently confirmed the woman’s identity.

        The Morbellis had been expecting a daughter, Madison Leigh. The mother and daughter will be interred together in New York on Wednesday.

        According to Jill Stanek, “Approximately two weeks ago Jennifer learned her daughter suffered from fetal anomalies.”

        Investigations into Mrs. Morbelli’s death are underway by the police and Medical Examiner’s office.

        “Jennifer was a beautiful woman who was loved and cherished by many, whose future appeared bright. Her passing is an unspeakable tragedy,” said Troy Newman, President of Operation Rescue and Pro-Life Nation, who first reported Morbelli’s death last week.

        “We are dedicated to working through the legal system to ensure that no more women will suffer Jennifer’s fate.”

        “My sincere sympathies go to Jennifer and Madison’s family, who is certainly suffering unimaginable grief,” said Jill Stanek.

        • May Jennifer’s soul and that of her daughter Madison rest in peace, and may others learn from what happened to her not to get involved in abortion in any way.

        • Maryanne Leonard says:

          “A beautiful woman…?” What does that matter? Her actions in killing her daughter, whom God made differently, or in her eyes apparently, imperfect, do not suggest beauty to me.

          A more truthful remembrance would be, “A woman who engaged another to murder her unborn child herself died in the process of child abuse in the extreme.” Sorry, but that’s telling it like it is. Where is the beauty in her heart, her soul, her mind?

          If God made her beautiful, it was to attract other human beings to her, and it was a gift to be used judiciously. Since no reference is made to any husband or even a lover, one has to assume that if she was possessed of beauty, she squandered it away by giving herself to someone who wanted to use her, and not to marry her and stand by their children.

          I see no beauty in this story. All I see is a selfish, willful woman with no morals and no love for her child, no man by her side, a murderer and a lost soul. I do feel sorry for her, but I do not exalt her.

          If she was beautiful, that was one of God’s many gifts to her, and she squandered it. If her child was imperfect, that too was God’s gift to her, and she murdered it. I have trouble seeing beautiful murderers as beautiful women. To me a woman’s heart, mind, soul and actions are what make her beautiful. A woman without love, self-respect, and compassion for her child is not beautiful to me.

          • Maryanne Leonard, you are right that “beauty is as beauty does.” Nevertheless, let us hope she repented before she died. Hell is forever.

      • Something about teeth whitening?

  18. I was hood-winked into buying Shriver’s book about his father. Had I known he was such a pro-choice advocate I would not have wasted my money. Sounds to me he is just another chip off of the Kennedy “block”.
    His sister Maria would seem to be of the same ilk, unless my information is in error.

  19. This CCD is a great blog site so we can all know what is happening.

    However – what do we do with the information? Just complain to each other – or let the appropriate Catholic authorities know exactly what is happening in their Diocese?

    We all have an obligation.
    I hope everyone who has written on this site, or sees this article contacts the Office of Archbishop Gomez about the REC (LA Religious Education Congress), and sends a copy the US Papal Nuncio in Washington DC.

    ArchBishop Gomez has to clean up the mess encouraged and left by Mahony.

  20. Until Religious Ed. comes to terms with orthodoxy and apologetics, we will never have TRUTH taught… it’s still relative in CA religious circles. IF the teachers who come to the conference stop going until there are presenters/teachers who deliver the true Church’s teachings, this will only continue… and sadly get worse!

    • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

      ALL4HIMM,

      “Until Religious Ed. comes to terms with orthodoxy and apologetics, we will never have TRUTH taught”.

      YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! See you there?

      God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
      Kenneth M. Fisher

  21. Eunice and Sargent Shriver seemed to have been good people. May they, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. I pray for the full pro life Catholic conversion of Mark Shriver for the sake of his parents, the unborn children and himself.

    • Mark from PA says:

      Yes, Anne, pray for him. It would be wonderful if he could be converted to a pro-life stance. He should not support a woman’s right to choose to kill her unwanted child. It is sad that he is a devout Catholic, it seems, but has a blind spot when it comes to this issue. Mark Shriver needs to be helped to see the light and honor the memory of his parents.

  22. David L. Gray says:

    Barack Obama was twice invited to tell jokes and smack the back of the Arch Bishop of New York at the Catholic Charities Al Smith Dinner – who cares about a pro-abort Kennedy relic speaking at the LA Archdiocesan Religious Education Congress?

    • David L. Gray, there is such a thing as “the sin of silence”. I have expressed my opposition concerning President Obama before and have expressed my opposition to Mark Shriver speaking to the proper people. Whether they do anything about it or not is up to them, but I have done what I thought was right. That is all that matters before God.

  23. Hopefully many people from pro life organizations and groups will be there this weekend to protest.

    • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

      Sussanne,

      “Hopefully many people from pro life organizations and groups will be there this weekend to protest”

      Oh how I hope you are right! See you there? We have printed at great expense (our treasury is now almost nil), 5000 bi-lingual tabloids that expose the many heretical speakers, but we won’t get them all distributed unless we have enough volunteers to do so. Call or Email me at: 714-491-2284/ 714-260-3821 (Cell), crcoa@att.net.

      God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
      Kenneth M. Fisher

  24. Texas Catholic says:

    Do the religious education teachers get continuing education credit for attending this talk and/or conference? Are they required to get continuing education by the diocese?

  25. When a certain pro-abortion politician was invited to speak at Notre Dame, there were protests, arrests, various outrages from Catholic press sources, bloggers and talk-show hosts, and threatened withdrawals of financial support from University donors. Now when the Archdiocese of Los Angeles invites a pro-abortion politician to give the keynote address at an Archdiocesean event over which they have DIRECT control, there is barely a whimper — only here have I noticed any coverage at all. Who will protest this speaker and risk arrest? Who will withdraw their financial support of the Archdiocese? Where is the outrage now? Fr. Z? EWTN? National Catholic Register? Raymond Orroyo? Anyone?

    It is sad to see that the Church has slipped so breathtakingly far in only a few short years. In retrospect, this invitation makes the earlier protests against Obama at Notre Dame look like a matter of pure partisan politics rather than anything remotely related to morality — only reinforcing a stereotype people outside the Catholic Church have already formed anyway.

    Perhaps Bp. Vann will step in. Please join me in contacting Bp. Vann at the chancery in Orange (714) 282-3000 before Saturday’s address and ask for the Bishop’s office. Refer to the U.S. Bishops’ document, “Catholics in Political Life” and the following quote: “The Catholic community and Catholic institutions should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles. They should not be given awards, honors or platforms which would suggest support for their actions.” Ask him to honor the commitment that Bp. Vann made as part of the USCCB.

    • eric conrad says:

      Dave you are so right. The only fully courageous pro Catholic media I’ve been watching lately is ChurchMilitant tv

      eric

    • I do not get it why bishops take their marching orders from majority of the laity? Why aren’t their lightbulbs on? Is it a scarcity of electricity due to a stuck switch, or corroded power lines that function only intermittantly and when conditions are ideal (ie almost never)?

      • OOPSY DAISEE, This post of Feb 21, 2013 at 7:01pm is mine and not Anonymouses … I forgot to enter Skai before hitting the send button.

        • Abeca Christian says:

          its interesting but if I forget to add Abeca it won’t send at all but usually my name is already in the name section…..interesting..maybe it is the cookies.

    • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

      Dave N.

      I assure you that both of them have been well informed! See you there?

      God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
      Kenneth M. Fisher

    • I did my part, Dave N, and expressed by oppositions two times to the proper people. I am not always able to call or write on everything, but I did so this time.

  26. eric conrad says:

    Is there ever going to be a courageous Bishop in Los Angeles?

  27. Robert Buchta says:

    Pray, pray, pray and fast for our priests and religious that they may be true to the Church. Also I would hope that my own bishop, William Murphy of Rockville Center, NY or Cardinal Dolan of New York City would become vocal in denouncing the L.A. conference. Being a realist I believe miracles do happen. Speaking of New York City, a play will open at the Walter Kerr Theatre on Broadway March 29 portraying the Blessed Mother as an embittered old woman. I will leave the additional information about the contents of the play to your imagination. The play is written and produced by a homosexual – need I say more. I do not know if he is an ex-catholic.

    • Robert, I hope you email Cardinal Dolan or your own Bishop when you find abuses of the various types within his either of their Diocese.
      Please send them documentation.

      • Maryanne Leonard says:

        Remember, Matt, that while the Cardinal and the Bishop should be alerted, obviously if they denounce a play publicly, it will only give more publicity to it, which will increase the numbers of people who may attend and give exposure to this ex-Catholic’s bitter pen.

        • MaryAnne L., Bishops (and their Priests) have an obligation to accurately teach.

          Neither Jesus or His Apostles or known Deciples shied away from teaching the truth – even if some would go to the side of sin and spiritual death.
          Please don’t fall into the trap that any faithful Catholic should remain silent and let the devil do his thing.

          Being a coward, or being concerned about avoiding theTRUTH which will ultimately Save Souls – must never be a consideration for our Church leaders.

          • Maryanne Leonard says:

            Allen, good reminders. I agree with your statements in general, but I think these things need to be done cautiously and carefully in order to avoid aiding the cause of the devil. Most readers of these comments would probably say that the last thing they would ever accuse me of is staying “silent while letting the devil do his thing.” I think that is our duty.

      • Why is it that no one expects bishops to go and make sure their priests are faithful? The way it seems is that bishops are all form and no filling. If you do not take care of your house, Jesus will not take care of you.

        • Abeca Christian says:

          Skai I agree…maybe they need to read their bibles more often especially the new testament. Sometimes we just need to refresh our self’s.

    • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

      Robert,

      I understand that “writer” is an ex-Catholic!

      God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
      Kenneth M. Fisher

  28. Mbûkû Kanyau Mbithûka says:

    We can all accept that the Reign of Bishop Gomez is going to be business as usual. I am awaiting another year to come sadly to the same conclusion about San Francisco. Unless you get an FSSP priest appointed to that position by the Holy Father, Nothing is ever going to happen and faithful souls will continue to find themselves in purgatory because no one told them some things are sinful. A lot more souls are unfortunately going to hell at this rate. Because even when you are not taught, baptism comes with responsibilities.
    So are the Diocese(s) of Orange, Riverside and sadly San Diego. The Bishops in these dioceses do not put word out to their faithful not to attend this conference.

    • Stay in contact with Abp Gomez, letting him know (preferably with documentation) all the various public abuses within his Diocese.
      Pray for him daily.

      Read; Holy Scripture (starting with the New Testament);
      the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition”;
      “Code of Canon Law” which can be found on the Vatican web site;
      and
      GIRM (General Instruction of the Roman Missal) which can also be found on the Vatican web site.
      Know your stuff. :)

      Let your Bishop know the issues that need correction.
      The more people that write/email him, the better on each issue.

      When the Bishop is doing his own main job as a Diocese Bishop, he will probably not have time for anything at the USCCB, and getting involved in the Laity’s political arena.
      There are approx 4,349,267 Catholic Souls in his LA Diocese that need his undivided attention. When he is convinced that all know their Faith and most are going to Heaven, he can rest or do his own thing.

      • Mbûkû Kanyau Mbithûka says:

        Nice Idea but I find it difficult to believe that these Holy Men are not offended by these heresy’s.

        • Mbithuka, holy men should be offended by heresy.
          However, when they are in charge of a Diocese with several million Catholics, they can not and do not know everything that goes on within their boundaries.

          It is our obligation as Laity to help keep them informed of public scandal, heresy, schism and those things that cause confusion about the Faith within the Diocese. (Canon 212 #3)

          • We must all demand that heresy and schism be stopped immediately.
            Copy the US Papal Nuncio.

          • What about when the leaders directly cause the scandal themselves? To imply that Apb. Gomez doesn’t know this is happening and somehow needs to be informed is really misleading.

  29. I was researching this Religious Education Congress and I have not understood how there can be Catholics associated with democrat platform. Liberalism is against what the bible teaches. Its about murdering babies, same sex marriages, and total people control. Which God is against.

    These people are playing country club church.
    My Dad told me one time, there are Catholics and then there are “contract-catholics” (sign the dotted line).

    • “Heretics” and “Schismatics”.
      We all should use the correct terminology in the media to help educate the world.

      • Some are not heretics or schismatics. There is also ignorance, error and doubt and incredulity.

        • Maryanne Leonard says:

          There is more defiance and rebellion than ignorance and innocent error in the Church. The lack of knowledge about one’s own religion is at least as much the fault of the individual as it is of his or her bishop.

          Catholicism has a proud tradition of preserving knowledge and providing superb educations in order to help people learn about their faith and providing armies of spiritual consultants and advisors (priests and nuns) whose lives are in the main dedicated to helping people know and live the faith.

          If a person is capable of reading, enough books to fill a library have been written about virtually every aspect of our faith imaginable. If a person is capable of watching television, one year of watching EWTN for several hours a week should provide a person about 90% of the information needed to understand how to live as a faithful Catholic.

          Just going to daily Mass as children, back in the day when kids did this, provided us a lot of basic background information before we could even read. Great animated programs on EWTN teach kids Bible stories and basic aspects of Catholic teaching 7 days/week, and there are many classic films with Biblical themes children can follow and enjoy.

          Parishes offer various classes and also have great books and videos that can be borrowed to help all of us learn, no matter our ages, and good old-fashioned home teaching is another means through which a child learns the faith.

          No Catholic today suffers in ignorance innocently.

          It seems harsh to me to blame the bishops for the widespread ignorance we see. It is true, more could be done, and classes could be a lot better. But if ignorance exists in this modern world, the individual can cure that situation readily. Much more likely is that the “ignorant” Catholic has been exposed to teachings that he or she has chosen to ignore, has forgotten, or doesn’t care to study or follow.

        • CCC: ” 2089
          INCREDULITY is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it.
          HERESY is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same.
          APOSTACY is the total repudiation of the Christian faith.
          SCHISM is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him. ”

          There is no excuse for sinful ignorance, since the Catechism of the Catholic Church, second edition” is avalable to all. And those attending the REC are literate.
          All Catholics (including the Clergy) are required to adhere to everything in the CCC.

          “Catholic” politicans and others who support: abortion, same-sex marriage, euthanasia, cloning, or embroyonic stem cell research are indeed “HERETICS” and/or “SCHISMATICS” and should be called heretics or schismatics in the public media.
          The same is true of those who support women’s ordination or go against other teachings of the Church.
          The TRUTH is critically important.

          • The problem is they let these politicians get away with it too long. They should have clamped down on them right away. How many people will have to get or die from STDs and children from abortion before they wake up?

    • Abeca Christian says:

      Carlos you are fine to use that terminology to speak the language of the secular….I know that is what helped me in the past get to the truth by understanding and identifying what is at stake here. In the media we can not call someone a heretic if they are not Catholic….even Non-Christians consider us Catholic’s heretics….now the other word Schismatic is good to use but that is a vocabulary that one grows into after more wisdom and knowledge sets in…..

      • Abecca, use the definitions in the CCC for accuracy. (2089)
        Truth must prevail.
        The language of the secular media is not accurate, and paints a picture that you can still be a “Faithful Catholic” when someone publically violates important teachings of the Church, and promotes sin. This teaches disobedience to Church teaching and causes grave confusion with the public – uncatechised Catholics as well as non-Catholics.
        We must not ad to the ignorance and confusion, and must stop scandal as best as we can – this is done through the proper use and definition of language in the media.

        * * * * * You are right that ONLY people who call themselves ‘Catholics’ can be called HERETICS and/or SCHISMATICS – such as Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Brown, Mark Shriver, Carolyn Kennedy, many members of the REC, etc.

        CCC: ” 2089 ….
        HERESY is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; …..
        SCHISM is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”

        This is the definition of HERESY in a secular dictionary: ” a: adherence to a religious opinion contrary to church dogma;
        b: denial of a revealed truth by a baptized member of the Roman Catholic Church
        c: an opinion or doctrine contrary to church dogma.”

        This is the definition of SCHISM in the same secular dictionary:
        ” a: formal division in or separation from a church or religious body
        b: the offense of promoting schism.”

        Using the word “heretic” or “schismatic” when TRUTHFUL, is important and lets the entire world know the TRUTH,
        not something cutesy or clutsy that means minor difference of opinion in the minds of the public.

  30. AB Gomez, Stand up and clean up this mess!!

  31. Maryanne Leonard says:

    Archbishop Gomez, we implore you to review the recordings of the REC presentations, decide for yourself if you would teach such things to the thousands of spritiually hungry Catholics who attend this international showcase of “Catholic” teachings, and if you agree with the legions of us who are shocked it is being allowed, please do clean it up.

    We know it is presented in Orange County, but it emanates in large part in our archdiocese and basically broadcasts a world of misguided and inaccurate information to trusting Catholics and those studying our faith who are considering conversion. Proper guidance for every soul is very important, since the salvation of every soul begins with proper, accurate, teaching of the principles of the Catholic faith.

    I despair that the REC is allowed to continue to preach error without the intervention of our new archbishop, in whom we place so much hope for the highest standards. Please do hear the calls of the faithful to clean up the Religious Education Congress.

  32. DEFINITION OF “SHRIVE”
    1. To hear the confession of and give absolution to (a penitent).
    2. To obtain absolution for (oneself) by confessing and doing penance.
    v.intr. Archaic
    1. To make or go to confession.
    2. To hear confessions.

    MAYBE SHRIVER NEEDS TO BE SHRIVEN? :)

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