Feelings, nothing more than feelings

Culture is moving away from born-that-way narrative
From TheGuyintheGreenShorts blog

From TheGuyintheGreenShorts blog

The following comes from a June 18 posting on Breakpoint.org.

Ask a group of people today—especially high school and college students—what makes them them, and you’ll likely get as many responses as respondents. They may say, “I am what my genes make me,” or maybe “I am what I experience,” or “I am what I choose.”

And soon, you’ll notice two distinct themes emerging. They’re the answers our culture increasingly gives to the question of sexual identity—as if that’s all there is to identity. And, ironically, they contradict each other.

We hear the first one all the time from advocates of so-called same-sex “marriage”: “I was born this way,” or to quote rap artist Macklemore, “I can’t change even if I tried.” We’re all familiar with the argument by now: homosexual attraction is an innate characteristic—maybe genetic. Therefore, denying same-sex attracted individuals the “right” to get married is the same as racism.

But an alternate narrative has appeared on the horizon, and by “horizon,” I mean the cover of a recent TIME Magazine issue, where it’s used to promote the “T” in the acronym “LGBT.” The “T,” of course, stands for “transgender,”—those who say their biological sex and their perceived gender don’t match. The mantra here goes, “I was born this way, but I want to change. In fact, I have a right to change.”

So we’re told that the biology of the “L,” the “G,” and the “B” can’t change. But when it comes to “T,” the biology doesn’t matter.

Confused? Well, you’re not alone. But believe it or not, there’s a whole history to this. All the way back in 1989 a book called “After the Ball” was published by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen, who laid out their proposal to—as the subtitle said—help America “Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90s.” In their book (which they openly called “propaganda”), Kirk and Madsen encouraged activists to use the “born this way” argument even though they knew it wasn’t exactly true, but in order to paint same-sex attracted individuals as being victims of nature.

“The public should be persuaded that gays are victims of circumstance,” Kirk and Madsen wrote, “for all practical purposes, gays should be considered to have been ‘born gay’—even though sexual orientation, for most humans, seems to be the product of a complex interaction between innate predispositions and environmental factors…”

Say what? After the endless repetition of the “born this way” argument, you wouldn’t think there’s anything at all “complex” about sexual orientation. But now that “gay marriage” is considered a done deal, the story is changing—and it’s changing fast.

Suddenly, sexual orientation is a choice again. Writing at The Huffington Post, Tracy Baim tells us “I do know some women and men who identify as gay or lesbian who have changed back and forth in their identity,” she says, “and sometimes [they] identify as bisexual. Why should it matter what we call ourselves?”

Writing in Slate, Michael Carey admits that “the ‘born this way’ argument has been politically useful, but the moral argument for acceptance of gay relationships doesn’t require it.”

Out of all of this, the new narrative about human identity is emerging. Instead of “I am my biology,” or “I am what I choose,” our culture has landed on, “I am what I feel.” And someone’s feelings must not be challenged.

This answer to the question of identity untethers us from biological, social, and biblical realities, and replaces them with a despotism of the subjective. In effect, we now are our feelings.

Jesus had an analogy for what happens when we build on unstable ground like our feelings. Christians should take note of how a false story re-shaped millions of imaginations….

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  1. Michael McDermott says:

    Misandry – The Hatred of Men & Boys, Masculinity & Normal Heterosexuality, is more than just a ‘Feeling’…

    It is a Gaystapo Hate Pogrom, and the annual tax subsidized Anti-Male Hate Riot Celebrates the Hate (Set for Saturday the 28th) – Beginning on the Steps of Mission Dolores Church – with appropriate levels of media censorship of course, which have become much heavier since this last Warning was Published:
    SEE
    “”Men told not to rain on parade Unity key to Dyke March 50,000 expected at S.F. Dyke March 50,000 expected — MEN NOT ADVISED
    http://www.sfgate.com/politics/joegarofoli/article/Men-told-not-to-rain-on-parade-Unity-key-to-Dyke-2746314.php

    “A few simple rules are expected to attract more than 50,000 participants to today’s 12th annual Dyke March through San Francisco: no corporate sponsors, no politicians, No Permit to march and NO MEN.”

    • Your Fellow Catholic says:

      Of course, McDermott lies once again. The Dyke march is not “beginning on the Steps of Mission Dolores Church (Dolores and 16th Streets in San Francisco). It is beginning at Dolores Park, at Dolores and 18th Streets, 2 blocks away. http://www.thedykemarch.org/#!the-plan/c5i3

    • Michael McDermott says:

      Anonymous Alinskite Homosex Trolls are sooooo ‘convincing’ in their hissy fits posted here – that you almost forget that they are too craven to even identify themselves or their affiliations.

      Unlike those of us who have years of video showing the Dyke March (just filmed the latest – in all its anarchistic raging Misandrist ‘glory’) – including those Dykes gathered on the 18th street steps of Mission Dolores – which is immediately adjacent to Dolores Park, for those unfamiliar with the city or simply wise enough to give the crazed gridlock a wide distance.

      But then Trolling is about Disruption by instigating flame wars to prevent useful information being disseminated, and Not helping the Faithful who read this board to become informed.

      Still – I could use some help editing a decades worth of Dyke March Hate Riot Video – as each year brings new surprises…. Along with the Same Misandrist Hate as even the Frisco Media stopped publishing pictures of long ago.

      *BTW – this year (first time in my experience) there was a camera crew (behind barricades and with a telescoping boom setup) at the corner of 16th & Valencia ( believe the company was “Sense 8), apparently hired to provide footage for future propaganda…

      • Your Fellow Catholic says:

        McDermott doesn’t seem to have a very good grasp of geography. Mission Dolores doesn’t have steps on 18th street. It has steps on Dolores Street on the block between 16th street and Chula Lane. The steps he may be referring to are the steps of Mission High School, a property of the San Francisco Unified School District. Why do you suppose McDermott continues to lie about this?

  2. PETER S. says:

    Same sex attraction is a temptation for a minority.
    Homosexual Acts are Mortal Sins.

    There is nothing hereditary, and nothing medical forcing anyone to be homosexual. (Center for Disease Control.)

    People need to control their sexual appetites, or if unrepentant they will go to Hell.
    Between all the sexual advertising, and programming etc. in the media – many are turning sex into a god. This idolatry destroys societies.

  3. Father Karl says:

    Saint John of the Cross, as well as Saint Theresa of Avila have stressed inn their writings that feelings are not to be trusted. Because mankind has an intellect, that is supposed to be our guiding point. When studying theology, as a seminarian I was taught that one can feel holy, and still be in the state of mortal sin, and that one can feel sinful, but yet be in the state of sanctifying grace. THE DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL, and other Catholic classics stress this point quite well. Before Vatican II, almost all Catholics believed this, but along with the charismatic movement, and the reforms of the Council, spiritual theology seems to have changed, and feelings play a major role in religious life today. The majority of Catholics like something because it feels good, and makes them warm and fuzzy inside. We are not animals, who rely strictly on the sensate level. We have a supernatural soul, and an intellect, which all mankind shares with the angels. Unfortunately many are involved with mysticism,, which is a little bit of mist, and a lot of schism, well as the saying, ‘If it feels good, do it’.

  4. Jim McCrea says:

    Happy Gay Pride Sunday here in San Francisco. Come on out and get your juices roiling. Hundreds of thousands of happy liberated people who could care less what you think of them.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yet what they think of us changes our laws and is rammed down our throats by their blind intolerance and hatred! Yet I don’t care what they think of me!!

      • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

        Jim and cowardly Annonymous,

        What we think of you is not as important as what God thinks of you, and He has been very clear about that in His Scriptures, and NO nut job “theologian” can change that!

        May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and your poor souls!
        Viva Cristo Rey!
        Yours in Their Hearts,
        Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
        Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc

    • Michele says:

      Homosexual Acts, Fornication, Adultery, and Pornography send unrepentant Souls to Hell for eternity.

      By their own actions (and inactions) people send themselves to Hell.

      May God forgive those who celebrate and encourage Mortal Sin.

  5. St. Christopher says:

    Identity-seeking, of course, misses the true issue — homosexual sexualist — that, whoever, or why ever, determined, is a moral dead-end. No one in this identity group (distinguished from a “homosexual” that is chaste, and that has confessed any sexual actions) can claim to be living a morally upright life, one that is blessed by the Church. Pagans, of course, cannot (or choose not to) understand this, as they see homosexuality and its sexual expression, as a personal “right” that has nothing to do with anything but what you want to do, to be (kind of like a woman demanding to do what she wants “with my body”). The Church needs to constantly, and unequivocally, express its moral teachings on this — avoiding what always appears to be an apology, kind of like what Abp. Cordileone often does. But, the Church is simply going to go into the Lutheran “power to the people” camp, under Pope Francis and his Clown Cardinal brain-trust, so who knows what will happen. In any event, homosexual sexual behavior is every time, and always, mortally sinful and every Catholic priest, and laity, must say this, and oppose homosexual marriage, as a society should be free to express its laws in a way to comply with its accepted moral code.

    • Your Fellow Catholic says:

      St. Christopher, please learn what constitutes “always and everywhere a mortal sin” before you opine upon it. You have some self-education to do, I’m afraid.

      • Michele says:

        All those who choose to be Catholic must adhere in ENTIRETY to the ‘Doctrine of the Faith’ which is contained in the “CATECHISM of the CATHOLIC CHURCH, Second Edition” “as revised in accordance with the official Latin text promulgated by Pope John Paul II” (1997).
        http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/ccc_toc.htm
        and for more info: http://whatcatholicsreallybelieve.com/

        For literate Catholics who have ever heard of the Bible and/or the CCC, there will be no excuses when they are judged by Jesus at death.
        CCC: ” 1791 This ignorance can often be imputed to personal responsibility. This is the case when a man takes little trouble to find out what is true and good,
        or when conscience is by degrees almost blinded through the habit of committing sin.
        In such cases, the person is culpable for the evil he commits.”

        The Magisterium has provided us with the Bible and CCC for the salvation of our Souls. We have the responsibility to read them in entirety.

      • Canisius says:

        Still misleading and lying YFC,,,,???

      • John Feeney says:

        YFC, please explain to us what homosexual sexual behavior is not a mortal sin.

  6. St. Christopher says:

    “Your Fellow Catholic”: Wrong, as usual, and predictable, in trying to avoid the deadly result, each and every time, of homosexual sex. No doubt, some bishop or priest(s) advised you that homosexual sex is not a mortal sin, but it is, each and every time. And, your name calling is childish. Provide some intellectual weight to your position, YFC. That is not possible, of course, in that homosexual sex is always and everywhere a mortal sin. You had best pay attention to the moral cost of homosexual sex before making ad hominem attacks; try to learn how to debate the issue (although, admittedly, it is not possible to debate the morality of sodomy). Of course, you can always raise your argument upon judgment; and good luck with that.

    • No one should listen to the personal opinions of Clergy, Nuns, or anyone else – if they conflict with the Bible and CCC.

      A Catholic Bible and the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” (1997) contain the ‘Doctrine of the Faith’ – without accidental or purposeful error.

      Even Bishops and Priests are bound to the Bible and CCC.
      If any of them speak in contradiction to any parts of them, correct them with humility.

      • Abeca Christian says:

        That’s right MIKE. The church teaches that the on teachings of dogma the Pope is infallible but he can be fallible on his personal opinions. A priest or anyone in an authoritative position can not teach “his or hers” personal interpretation on teachings of mother church nor scripture but they must be in union with the truth only. Anything else is just their opinion and we must remember that they are human and as human is, there is error but what is from God, there is no error and the truth must be told. Anyone going against the truth, one must approach with warning. That is why its important for the faithful to learn their faith better so no one living today can fool nor deceive them. We must be armored with God’s truths and wisdom but before we can do that, we must first know and fear the Lord! Love Him with all our might!

    • hosemonkey says:

      St. Christopher,
      You gotta remember that YFC is a member of the homosexual fifth-column that claim to be “catholic” but who work treacherously from inside the Church for her destruction and for the insidious destruction of souls. Alas, many priests and Bishops have also been infected with this moral cancer as well. Homosexual acts are mortal sins, full stop, and mortal sin, unrepented, sends you to hell like a bullet. YFC. and those like him, have no credibility in the discussion of the evils of homosexuality, because they march in the ranks of those who are trapped in sin.

      • What I don’t understand, hosemonkey, is why anyone would want to stay in a Church that finds their sexual inclination a disorder and that they must forsake it and live chastely. It can only be as you say, that they are indeed working to infiltrate the Church with their heresy as they did in the protestant churches. If that were not so, they would convert to any one of these denominations that have already totally succumbed to the homosexual tsunami. Do they think we’re all so stupid that we don’t see why they keep spewing their lies every day? The woman who cheers on lesbianism here is almost a characichture of the bully in the back of the school room, mocking the other students and getting even with them later in the guise of the persecuted victim. Actually, it is so patently absurd for these people to keep playing at being victims of prejudice and bigotry that if it were not so pathetic I would laugh. No one is forced to attend the Catholic Church. No one!! If you do not accept the teachings of the Church, go somewhere else. Stop forcing yourselves on a party where the hostess is too gracious to throw you out…the obnoxious guest who takes pleasure in ruining everyone else’s.

        • Ann Malley says:

          Dana, your simile of the obnoxious guest is like those who come to the wedding feast minus the wedding garments. It is not like the wedding garments aren’t provided (God’s grace). No. Some insist on coming to the wedding dressed as they please (Garbed in sin by choice, that is not taking the steps necessary to rid themselves of it.) as they find the offer of a clean and appropriate garment to be an offense to them, forgetting entirely that they are attending the feast on the largess of the greatest of benefactors.

          Such will be thrown into the exterior darkness.

          Funny thing is, if the same scenario were to happen at a social affair, most would expect to be asked to leave, change clothes, or not even allowed to enter if they were dressed inappropriately. But that’s human respect which is acceptable in polite society…. unlike respect for God.

          • Excellent analogy, Ann. Thank you for your insight. Actually, this story (and the women with the oil lamps, unfilled) have always convicted me. If the Lord came tonight, would I be ready?

        • Your Fellow Catholic says:

          Dana, gay Catholics stay in the Church for exactly the same reasons, that you presumably stay in the Church: To be members of the Body of Christ and participate in her life of faith, prayer, and worship. It’s actually quite simple, really.

        • Anonymous says:

          Amen! IMHO, homosexuals are so desperate to justify and ligitimize their sin that they are prepared to propose any lie to force their perversion on society in general. Under the guise of “equality”, they have perverted marriage, they have forced their perversion on our military, they have perverted the meaning of the word “family” and have afflicted the Church with the sexual molestation scandal. All this did not happen overnight, it is the result of many years of careful work by the minions of Satan. An important part of the plan is to leave “moles” in place inside institutions that they would destroy. It is much more difficult to defend against someone inside the walls and who would open the gates to the enemy.

      • Kenneth M. Fisher says:

        hosemonkey,

        WELL PUT!

        May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
        Viva Cristo Rey!
        Yours in Their Hearts,
        Kenneth M. Fisher

    • Your Fellow Catholic says:

      St. Christopher, I don’t believe I’ve called you any names other than St Christopher. Nonetheless, you seem to be missing the element of culpability. For an act to always and everywhere be a mortal sin would mean that always and everywhere the culpability would be the same, which, of course, is not the teaching of the Catholic Church.

      • Ann Malley says:

        Then the greater sin would be upon those who openly attempt to subvert the truth and blind the faithful to the seriousness of the sin of sodomy that calls out to Heaven for vengeance. You can’t fool God, YFC. And intentionally dumbing down Catholics, those who are called to seek full knowledge of the Faith, isn’t going to work in the long run as all are culpable.

      • hosemonkey says:

        YFC, for you to attempt to lecture on the teaching of the Catholic Church would be like the Ayatollah Khomeni lecturing on the finer points of the U.S. constitution, the knowledge and the spirit is just not there. You know a little about the words, but you have no knowledge of the music.

  7. Anonymous says:

    the Vatican has already signed off on same sex attraction as a natural phenominom. We need to pray for these people and treat them with a little bit of dignity, even if we disagree with their behavior.

  8. Abeca Christian says:

    Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor boy prostitutes nor practicing homosexuals nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. That is what some of you used to be; but now you have had yourselves washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. [1COR 6:9-11]

  9. Abeca Christian says:

    “Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that ‘homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.’ They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.” (Catechism of the Catholic Church)

    “Homosexual persons are called to chastity.” (Pontifical Council for the Family)

  10. Abeca Christian says:

    “[C]opulation with an undue sex, male with male, or female with female, as the Apostle states (Romans 1:27)…is called the vice of sodomy.” (St. Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church and “greatest theologian in the history of the Church”)

    “[C]ertain special sins are said to be against nature; thus contrary to sexual intercourse, which is natural to all animals, is unisexual lust, which has received the special name of the unnatural crime.” (St. Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church and “greatest theologian in the history of the Church”)

  11. St. Christopher says:

    “YFC”: Perhaps “hosemonkey” is correct. Your comment on culpability is meaningless. The elements of mortal sin: gravity of matter, full knowledge, and deliberate consent are always present with homosexual sex. Oh yes, the literature is full — full to overflowing — with endless justifications by homosexuals in that they, in essence, cannot be held accountable, in a “traditional Catholic moral sense” for their sexual actions. No necessary knowledge can be imputed, or consent given, the argument goes, in that a homosexual person is biologically or physiologically wired such that their entire consciousness or being makes them incapable of understanding the moral gravity of their actions; this would be akin, it is argued, to penalizing instinct. Of course, this line of argument is offensive to the entire notion of sin and redemption in Catholicism, and the fight of many, many Saints against acting on temptation in a wide variety of ways. Sodomy is a mortal sin; that is the act itself, if voluntarily committed, is a mortal sin. It simply does not matter that a homosexual person believes that what he is doing is natural and fine, it is not and it is a mortal sin and this is so each and every time it is committed. No one forces a homosexual person to “give in” to his temptation. You should really read more about the lives of the Saints.

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