Father Pavone: Our religion requires no less

What if government wanted to imprison small children of employees?
Father Pavone (photo from amarillo.com)

Father Pavone (photo from amarillo.com)

The following comes from an Aug. 25 release from Priests for Life.

Father Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, this morning released a statement regarding the new “accommodation” to the HHS mandate announced last week.

Father Pavone said: “On Friday afternoon, it was announced that the Obama Administration has come up with an alternate procedure for religious non-profit groups like Priests for Life, who object to the HHS mandate, to register their objection so that their employees can receive insurance coverage for immoral practices by other means.

“Despite this new announcement, we are proceeding full speed ahead with our lawsuit, which already had oral arguments on May 8 in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, and which is therefore likely to be the first of the religious non-profit cases against the mandate to be decided at the appellate level.

“We are proceeding first of all because the regulation that burdens our religious freedom is still in effect, and secondly, because what we understand right now of the new rule still burdens our religious freedom.

“Many will ask, Why do you object to an action by which you register your objection?

“Let’s use a simple example. The government comes up with a plan to arbitrarily imprison children between 2 and 4 years old, and imposes on businesses the obligation to inform them of such children among the families of their employees.

“Any employer with a conscience is going to say, “I want nothing to do with this. If you’re going to imprison these children, you’re going to have to find them yourself. I won’t be sending you any information.”

“In the current case, we are being asked to be part of a process in which employees, if they want, can have coverage for abortion-inducing drugs (among others) precisely because they are our employees. Having someone else pay for it, and registering our objection to it, are not enough. We do not want to have any involvement in the process. We are not going to, in effect, tell the government, “Here are some of the people who aren’t covered! Be sure you don’t miss them, or the children they may want to kill.”

Bottom line: The government is on its own in this scheme to expand access to abortion-inducing drugs and contraceptives. We want a full exemption from this mandate, so that we have nothing to do with this scheme. If people want these drugs and the government wants to provide them, then the government will have to find a way to connect with them without our help. Our religion requires no less.

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  1. God Bless Father Pavone! Everyone, please support Priests for Life and their efforts on behalf of all of us who do not want the government mandating whatever they please. This has to do with our religious freedom.

  2. Anonymous says:

    You really think the courts will agree with you that signing a paper is a violation of your first amendment rights?

    Well of course you think that. You also pretend that abortions – by definition those things that terminate pregnancy – are the same as those things that prevent pre-implantation embyos from implanting. Pregnancy is by definition, the termination of an implanted embryo or fetus. No moral code in history has ever attempted to protect an unimplanted embryo. To do so would be to go after millions of unimplanted embryos, due to nothing else but nature herself. And the fact that many embryos fail to implant implicates God himself in the act you find so heinous that you cannot even bring yourself to sign a paper to abhor.

    • Arthur Lee says:

      Abortion is primarily immoral because it terminates life, not because it terminates pregnancy per se. As life begins at conception, implantation is irrelevant.

      • Your Fellow Catholic says:

        I understand that perspective, but it is not the persepective handed for all times by the Church. Unimplanted embryos happen all the time, and obviously, no one in history has claimed that they were human beings, until late 20th century medicine revealed that they exist. A single cell is not a human life. Sorry, but there is no Tradition or Scripture to support that notion.

        • Arthur Lee says:

          There was no knowledge of spermatozoa and ovum in past times. Medical science has now affirmed that life begins at conception.

        • Ann Malley says:

          No, you do not appear to understand the perspective, otherwise you wouldn’t have written what you did, YFC.

          “…Before I formed thee in the bowels of thy mother, I knew thee: and before thou camest forth out of the womb, I sanctified thee, and made thee a prophet unto the nations.” Jeremiah 1:5

          The defining DNA that is unique to every ‘person’ is very much present and different from the mother at the moment of conception. That is the beginning of human life – a distinctly unique and different human life. And yes, unimplanted embryos do happen, much like natural death happens all the time. It is whether or not the happening is left to God’s choosing that is the issue in both cases. Or do you advocate for euthanasia when ‘life’ isn’t as you’d like to define it anymore?

          • Your Fellow Catholic says:

            Dear Ann Malley: DNA is not what defines a human being. A viable cell with a full set of human DNA is not a human being. If that were so, you would shed human beings every single day just in the process of eating and drinking and brushing your teeth, because you shed thousands of these completely human cells every single day.

            I’m not making a judgement about the morality of disallowing the implantation of an embryo. That is a judgement for the Church as a whole to make. I am simply asking what the difference is between that single cell and the single cells which we shed every day which could be coaxed to form tissues, organs, who knows maybe even people, and what is the difference between not allowing the implantation of that cell and the not washing down the drain of fully human cells every time we brush our teeth. I know that sounds a bit crude, but I don’t think there has been a good answer to this question from our moral teachers.

            I also think we also have to ask ourselves that if we are so protective of a single cell, why are we so dismissive of the fully formed human beings that show up on our borders seeking a better life. We seem quite willing to discard those lives, don’t we?

          • Ann Malley says:

            Oh, yes the skin cells in a petri dish argument. I’ve heard that before YFC. And yet I cannot imagine that if you were being charged with murder you wouldn’t be very pleased to know that there was a very different DNA found on the murder weapon. Why? Well, because that distinctively different DNA would indicate that another PERSON – not you, and not a nameless skin cell – would be looked at as the potential murderer.

            Go on with your bad self, YFC. And zygote is not a single cell, but rather the beginnings of life that is multiplying – that is growing – long before implantation. Growth is one of the indicators of life, YFC. And the new life seeks to implant itself in the womb of the mother where it can obtain nutrition to ‘continue’ growing, not begin to grow, my dear confuser.

            You state: “…I also think we also have to ask ourselves that if we are so protective of a single cell, why are we so dismissive of the fully formed human beings that show up on our borders seeking a better life. We seem quite willing to discard those lives, don’t we?”

            I think you need to ask yourself and your cronies why you are so intent on killing life at the outset and removing the realities of sex being conjoined with procreation. You seem quite willing to dismiss God’s creation in favor of your own odd construct.

            As for ‘coaxing’ the natural function of the reproductive organs is to reproduce – that’s not coaxing. Attempting to grow skin cells in a petri dish is fiddling with God’s nature, much like you attempt to coax others into the notion that that which is against nature is somehow good and fruitful.

          • Your Fellow Catholic says:

            Too bad Ann Malley didn’t address my questions, but once again used them it to insult me. What’s new?

          • Anonymous says:

            The crucial difference is that zygotes and embryos are organisms, and skin cells, sperm and egg are not. The zygote/embryo is a whole distinct human organism—that is, a human being, a self-developing member of the species Homo sapiens—at a very early stage of life. Other cells are mere parts of larger wholes, not individual organisms themselves.
            MCCL blog

          • Ann Malley says:

            You insult the intelligence of others and Catholics in specific, YFC, with your constant culture-of-death agenda.

        • Anonymous says:

          YFC, an embryo is not a single cell. What did you say you were a professor of?
          Life begins at conception. At the earliest possible moment. You cannot say that a human zygote is not a human being. It is a human being at it’s first moment. It is the beginning of development of the human person.

          • Your Fellow Catholic says:

            A single cell and a human being are not the same thing. I’m sorry, it just doesn’t make any sense to say that. Even the ancient Doctors of the church taught that human life begins with the quickening, not the conception. This notion that once a sperm attaches to an egg that suddenly “life begins” ta daaaa, is a 20th century invention.

          • Ann Malley says:

            Science and common sense elude you, YFC. Even Margaret Sanger had this to say about abortion:

            ““The real alternative to birth control is abortion,” wrote Dean Inge, [Dean of St. Paul’s Cathedral, London]. It is an alternative that I cannot too strongly condemn. Although abortion may be resorted to in order to save the life of the mother, the practice of it merely for limitation of offspring is dangerous and vicious. [Emphasis added] I bring up the subject here only because some ill-informed persons have the notion that when we speak of birth control we include abortion as a method. We certainly do not. Abortion destroys the already fertilized ovum or the embryo; contraception, as I have carefully explained, prevents the fertilizing of the ovum by keeping the male cells away. Thus it prevents the beginning of life. [Source: Margaret Sanger, “Birth Control Advances: A Reply to the Pope,” 1931, Margaret Sanger Papers, Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College MSM S71-243.]”

            And if you’d like to stick to the laws of the ancient Doctors, then you should do so with regard to your favorite subject. The ancient Doctors had much to say about that which you insist is now suddenly okay because of what we now understand.

            So be consistent, YFC. At least then there would be room for mutual respect. This wet fish flopping for the pro-death agenda is too transparent.

          • Who among us can claim to having never been a single cell, if only but for a brief moment in time? 🙂

          • Anonymous says:

            A zygote is a human being.

        • Anonymous says:

          The New Testament revelation confirms the indisputable recognition of the value of life from its very beginning. The exaltation of fruitfulness and the eager expectation of life resound in the words with which Elizabeth rejoices in her pregnancy: “The Lord has looked on me … to take away my reproach among men” (Lk 1:25). And even more so, the value of the person from the moment of conception is celebrated in the meeting between the Virgin Mary and Elizabeth, and between the two children whom they are carrying in the womb.
          The Gospel of Life Saint John Paul II

        • Linda Maria says:

          This is in reference to YFC’s post that begins, “I understand that perspective, but…” You need to RESPECT LIFE! PERIOD! No “baloney” about it! Everyone knows what modern science says, and so?? Modern science has no respect at all, for LIFE, nor for GOD, the CREATOR of all LIFE!! A human life in the process of being formed in the womb by GOD– is PRECIOUS!! And also MIRACULOUS!!

      • Quite right. Ending a pregnancy is not wrong per se. Pregnancies are frequently ended by medical intervention to save the mother or sometimes the baby or both. Ending a life is what is wrong, and that’s what abortion is. And yes we do think or at least hope the courts will agree “that signing a paper is a violation of your first amendment rights?” Because “signing a paper” in this case means participating in something which violates fundamental teachings of our Church and also violates many people’s consciences. The courts up to this point have been pretty cognizant of that fact, have been careful to preserve freedom of religion and conscience and have ruled accordingly.

        • Ending a pregnancy IS ending a life…….which is ALWAYS morally wrong…..a mortal sin.

          • Arthur Lee says:

            The reason to make the distinction – Pregnancy, according to popular man-made secularist definition, does not occur until implantation. And abortion, also according to some popular man-made secularist definition, only means ending a pregnancy. Therefore, according to the secularists who make definitions to suit themselves, no abortion can occur unless there is pregnancy, i.e., implantation, and never before. Of course, faithful Catholics, enlightened by grace and the Magisterium, and supported by science, know that life begins at conception, and any definition of abortion which attempts to skirt this, is a canard.

      • Say what? You know that terminating a pregnancey IS terminating a life?

        • Contraception by the Pill, IUDs, or any chemicals do not always prevent conception……the chemicals ensure that the baby does not implant in the womb…..thus it is an abortificiant.

          • Your Fellow Catholic says:

            No, abortion is the termination of a pregnancy, by definition. Pregnancy begins when an embryo is implanted. Therefore, preventing implantation happens before pregnancy ever occurs, and is therefore not an abortion.

          • Your Fellow Catholic says:

            And before anyone jumps on me, let me clarify that in my post of 12:44 PM, I did not make a moral judgement about one procedure over another. I was just clarifying terms, because I know definitions are important to you all, and you would never countenance changing a definition here or there.

          • Ann Malley says:

            But to abort also means, very logically, to end something that has begun. And life – a distinctly different life with different DNA than the mother – is begun at the moment of conception, YFC.

            For someone touting apostasy and decrying the abandonment of the Church by others, you are surely hot to abandon all that is rational thought in the protection and nurturing of those that Our Lord God has known and loved even before they are formed. Or would you reply to Our Lord that such blobs are really just nothing zygotes that aren’t human and not really a life. Please.

            Be logical and consistent and not just with the progressive agenda please.

          • This medical dictionary claims pregnancy starts at conception. I’m sure it won’t be long before the thought police make them take their definition down or change it.
            http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Pregnancy

      • Anonymous says:

        what is “life”

    • Anonymous says:

      The use of artificial methods to prevent an embryo from existing or from implanting is immoral. It is not immoral for the embryo but for the person who is intending to contracept. even if no contraception actually occurs. It is not immoral for God to not have an embryo made from a particular sex act or if one occurs to have it not implant. God cannot do the immoral.
      It is important that the married couple is open to life, that they freely give their whole self (including their potential to join to create a new life.) The immorality of the use of artificial birth comes from its violation of the marriage vow and illicit use of the sexual gift.
      The fact that some methods of contraception are abortificants also adds the gravity that one may actually terminate the life of a person that God intended to exist.
      The use of contraception is gravely immoral. If done with full knowledge of its sinfulness and full consent of the will, it is a mortal sin, which has as its consequence “the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace. If it is not redeemed by repentance and God’s forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ’s kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back. However, although we can judge that an act is in itself a grave offense, we must entrust judgment of persons to the justice and mercy of God.”

    • ” “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
      and before you were born I consecrated you; ” – said the Lord. Jer 1:5.

      • Linda Maria says:

        YES!! And modern 20th century science invented the term “embryo” — yet, what is the truth?? The truth is– this is a LIVING HUMAN BEING, undergoing the process of being created as a little BABY, by God in Heaven!Just as He created our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and placed His “embryo” MIRACULOUSLY in the womb of the Blessed VIRGIN Mary!! All LIFE is God’s— not ours, to “play God” with!!

      • “And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.”

    • Ann Malley says:

      “…To do so would be to go after millions of unimplanted embryos, due to nothing else but nature herself.”

      You equate natural death to intentional extermination by willful neglect, Anonymous? Doing that which would specifically impede implantation of a life already begun would be tantamount to starving one already alive. For the new life is prior to implantation is doing nothing more than seeking the nurturing bond of supplied nourishment.

    • Linda Maria says:

      What a poor attitude, towards the love and protection of all Life, created by God! What a POOR ATTITUDE!!

    • Linda Maria says:

      “Anonymous” reflects a very POOR ATTITUDE, in this post! I already said that, but forgot to mention which post! This post is NOT GOOD!!

    • Linda Maria says:

      The post of “Anonymous” that I am complaining about, specifically, is the one that begins with “You really think the courts will agree …”(etc.)– the first post.
      NO!! Not good!

  3. Linda Maria says:

    I admire Fr. Pavone! However, the Church really needs to teach Christian morality to everyone, and to DEMAND it– or face EXCOMMUNICATION!! Also– first things first! The Church needs to teach everyone, the Virtue of CHASTITY– and to DEMAND it, of everyone!! PRE-MARITAL SEX– AS WELL AS ALL SEXUAL SIN— IS A MORTAL SIN, AND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED IN OUR CHURCH! PERIOD!! People are not “little babies,” with sick, frail little egos, ready to fall apart and die at any moment— that need to be treated extremely delicately, as if they were frail and sick hospital patients, with real illnesses!! No Archbishop can stand there and tell me (as they have in the past!) that if he were a HORRIBLE, MEAN ARCHBISHOP, and “traumatized” and excommunicated Rep. Nancy Pelosi, she would fall to pieces, emotionally, and have to go to the hospital! That’s not realistic!! All Catholics need good training in the Faith and Morals of our religion, starting from birth! And all BABY KILLERS need to be EXCOMMUNICATED!! Then, the world will RESPECT our Church!! And sin in the world, may start to lessen greatly!

    • Ann Malley says:

      I couldn’t agree more, Linda Maria. That said, the best evangelization tool would, in my view, would be to preach the Truth as if we actually BELIEVED that TRUTH IS TRUTH. And TREMBLED as we should. This perpetual pussy-footing is too reminiscent of progressive parenting – the same mentality that would have a parent get a lock for their teenage daughter’s door so that she can stay home and have illicit sex, but not be ’embarrassed’ if her little brother should walk in unannounced. We all understand how embarrassing and difficult it is to be young – wink, wink. But no care for the little brother being scandalized about the strange man using the family bathroom in the morning. (He does look awfully cute, however, when he attempts to defend his big sis.) But oh the tremendous coddling rendered to keep the older one sinning beneath the family roof. As if that makes it all okay. Because, while she may be sinning, at least she’s ‘safe’ at home!

      Liberal to a fault comes to mind. And after that disdain which turns Christ’s Church into a den of thieves that will see Him craft a whip to clean house. So absolutely not, Our Lord, will NEVER ABANDON HIS CHURCH. Absolute not. Never. But, I can well imagine Him doing some serious cleaning when true mercy cries out for justice. Goodness knows I would not want to be a whited sepulcher in those days. What a tame epithet that will be compared to the ire that we are literally begging for…and from God Almighty who will prove beyond all doubt that 1) He exists. 2) That He is all powerful. 3) That the Church is HIS Bride and that He is more than capable of routing those who have deviled Her much like the Temple of old.

      • Ann Malley says:

        … my last post should have said defiled and not deviled, but then perhaps that is an appropriate typo.

      • Catherine says:

        “That said, the best evangelization tool would, in my view, would be to preach the Truth as if we actually BELIEVED that TRUTH IS TRUTH. And TREMBLED as we should.”

        Excellent post Ann Malley! God bless you!

    • You are describing the responsibility of each Diocese Bishop.

      Does your Bishop actively and prominently promote the reading of the Bible and “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” at home for all literate persons over age 15?
      Why not?

      Pray that Bishops will take care of their own responsibilities – for the good of their own Souls and the Souls of the Catholics within their Diocese.
      http://www.churchmilitant.tv/daily/?today=2014-08-29

    • Only by the grace of God, go I. These souls are lost. Pray for their immortal souls and never stop sharing the witness of Jesus with them.

  4. Father Karl says:

    Just as the devil is the father of all lies, so too are most branches of our American government. If a lie is told often enough, it is believed because many people are proclaiming it. At the same time, when a single person lies, oftentimes he cannot remember the lie because it is outside of reality. I would trust our government about as far as I could throw a sumo wrestler. I stand by Father Frank as he is a very honest and holy priest. I fear that the wool will be placed over the eyes of all pro-life activity because we are dealing with the demonic, which is against God and truth, and all that is good and holy.

    • So true Father Karl. My parish is so careful not to upset those who are in sin.

      • Linda Maria says:

        What do you mean? Are you saying that it is actually good– not to upset those who are in sin?? Or what?? As everyone knows, it is our Christian duty– to inform those who are in sin, in our Church— that they must reform their lives! Christ did this every single day of His ministry! He came to call sinners to repentance! Of course, everyone knows that! So what do you mean, exactly??

        • Anonymous says:

          Apostasy in the wrappings of orthodoxy. Don’t you just love it.

          • Catherine says:

            The lavender mafia is hiding in “anonymous wrappings” but the unmistakable stench of homoheresy keeps wafting through! Don’t you just recognize it!

            Please Read – Fr. Dariusz Oko’s major article: “With the Pope against the Homoheresy”

          • Ann Malley says:

            Ambiguity in the trappings of – well – ambiguity. Typical.

        • Ann Malley says:

          SandraD would never think being mum about that which is sinful is a good idea. I think she was indicating that she belongs to a parish, however, that is guilty of keeping folks in the pews by not being straight with them.

          • Catherine says:

            “I think she was indicating that she belongs to a parish, however, that is guilty of keeping folks in the pews by not being straight with them.”

            Ann Malley, That is very true. This is another one of the reasons why a diocesan priest would choose to leave and join the FSSP. One Vietnamese priest told me that he is able to speak the full truth more to the Vietnamese people and they are humble enough to recognize that he is telling them this for their own good. This priest said that when he speaks the full truth at the other Masses that the people get angry and call the bishop and then the priest is told to *tone it way down.* The phrase *tone it way down* has been given a new PC sugar coated disguise label which is also often referred to as “pastoral sensitivity”.

            Meanwhile the father of lies is high-fiving this over abundance of *lukewarm cowardice* aka as “pastoral sensitivity” and relishing the high cost that will be paid by the compromising minions.

          • Anonymous says:

            Yeah, you don’t hear sermons about forgiving and turning the other cheek, not judging, giving all your property to the poor, laying down your life for another, loving others as Jesus loves you.
            And when the Pope does this, the media loves him because he is consistent with Christ.
            And then he gets criticized by some who say that because the world loves him he is not of God.

          • Ann Malley says:

            Laying down your life for one another is hard to do, Anonymous, especially for those folks who haven’t even been told to lay down the birth control for the sake of their own kids. And turning the other cheek is what one does when they are slapped for telling and/or defending the TRUTH, something that is often hidden because folks are afraid of getting slapped.

            As for being loved by the media, THAT MEANS NOTHING. When Jane Fonda and Bill Mahar and perhaps P. Diddy and the Imams that want to kill us change their lives, that will be something. Talk and I-like-you are just that, talk. And the life of a religious isn’t for them to be liked, but for them to promote love of Our Lord – something which is shown by an amendment of LIFE not talk.

          • Ann Malley says:

            I hear ya, Catherine. And how. Pray for faithful and holy priests!

          • Anonymous says:

            Ann Malley, nope. You have not even begun the Christian walk.

        • Linda Marie, please stop shouting (!!!!) Your thoughts make perfect sense without the “tone” of your comments. Mea Culpa. BTW, you mis-read my reply to Father Karl’s posting. 🙂

      • Clarification…..Catherine understood my statement. My parish will not speak any truth that might ruffle the feathers of those in the pew. I disagree with them ofcourse! But, that said, no one really cares what I think there anyway. I cannot become angry or discouraged because only by the grace of God go I. I will continue to nudge, and pray for our clergy and pastoral leaders of our parish. ….the Church of Nice.

        • Linda Maria says:

          Thanks for taking the time to clarify your reply to Fr. Karl’s post! The former pastor of a parish which once included Rep. Nancy Pelosi and former Mayor Gavin Newsom, of San Francisco— used to boast about them, and even praise them, when they came to Mass once in awhile! Once, the former pastor invited parents and their children to a talk at the parish school, given by Pelosi and Newsom. I expressed concern, because these two promote pre-marital sex, abortion, birth control, gay sex, same sex “marriage,” and all immorality and sin, which the Church firmly stands against! The former pastor replied, that “every Catholic is entitled to their own point of view,” and he “does not judge anyone’s point of view” because it is “very unloving !” I replied “Do you believe, Father, for example— that killing a poor, helpless little baby in the womb— is only a “point of view,” and this “viewpoint” is more important— than defending the lives of helpless, unborn babies??” The priest said, “yes,” because we must “love” all people! I replied, “Well, Father, that is NOT “love!”

          • Ann Malley says:

            I pray you planted a seed in the priest’s heart, Linda Maria. Your truth telling might have been the man’s only exposure to it.

            God bless.

          • Tom in San Jose says:

            That “loving” priest has excommunicated himself and should go nowhere near the Holy Eucharist.

        • Ann Malley says:

          I love your posts, SandraD. Keep posting, please! And nudging – or pushing 🙂

  5. CCC: ” 2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion.
    This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.
    Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:
    You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.
    God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves.
    Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes. “

    • Sandra V. says:

      CCC: “2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense.
      The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life.
      A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae, by the very commission of the offense, and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law.
      The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society. “

  6. If someone does not like the benefits provided by any employer, they are free to find another job.
    It is none of the government’s business. Benefits are a contract between the employer and employee, not the government.
    Both employers and employees have rights.

    The Obama Administration wants to subvert the US Constitution.
    Bill of Rights –
    Article 1. “Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof “.
    The power of the President is restricted to Article II of the Constitution.
    All legislative powers are granted to the Congress (definitely not the President) Article 1.

    • Ann Malley says:

      Who knows what the long term plan is, ANNA? Right now, we actually do have the liberty to change jobs. But much like employers are being strong armed into doing that which they would not, perhaps we too will soon lose the ability to ‘change’ jobs or change anything that is not approved of by the State for our own ‘good’.

      If the government can coerce at the corporate level and we allow it, that will only embolden government to seek to control more and more. Power is a hungry little beastie and demands to be fed!

      I mean, we’ve got folks right on this thread claiming that a developing child doesn’t even have a right to the nourishment provided by its own mother. And these folks claim to be Catholic. That’s some kind of brainwash.

      • Anyone who purports to be Catholic, and supports abortion or euthanasia is a heretic and schismatic.
        They may not receive Holy Communion, and they may have been automatically excommunicated.

        CCC: ” 2322 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a “criminal” practice (GS 27 § 3), gravely contrary to the moral law. The Church imposes the canonical penalty of excommunication for this crime against human life.”

    • Your Fellow Catholic says:

      Anna, it is a dangerous road to go down if one takes the First Amendment and construes from it that people may do anything they please and say “religion made me do it”. The First Amendment is not license for people to use religion to violate the laws of the country. Courts have always found that it protects people so that they may worship whatever God they wish in their temples, churches, and homes, but when it comes to conduct outside those very limited spaces, allowing people to do whatever they please is a very different thing. Reminder that people used religion to justify racial segregation, and this was the entire basis for the KKK and its reign of terror. Fortunately, government and courts (supported, by the way, by some very Christian folks) stepped in and said that no, you cannot discriminate in this way just because you believe God put men on separate continents for a reason.

      • Anonymous says:

        The First Amendment is so that the Federal Government will not violate people’s legitimate (long standing/proven) religious beliefs.

        You have it backwards YFC. Go read it again.
        In addition the KKK was an organization, not a religion.
        – – – – – – –
        Anna is correct and her post has nothing to do with your reply.

        Anyone who purports to be Catholic, and supports abortion or euthanasia is a heretic and schismatic.
        They may not receive Holy Communion, and they may have been automatically excommunicated.

        CCC: ” 2322 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a “criminal” practice (GS 27 § 3), gravely contrary to the moral law. The Church imposes the canonical penalty of excommunication for this crime against human life.”

        • Ann Malley says:

          Thank you, Anonymous.

        • Anonymous says:

          A Catholic who supports abortion or euthanasia is in error and dissent. They should not receive Holy Communion as anyone who is not in communion should not. If they have successfully procured an abortion, they have been automatically excommunicated. Not being worthy to receive communion is a different thing than excommunication.

      • yfc, you wrote, “Courts have always found that it protects people so that they MAY WORSHIP whatever God they wish in their temples, churches, and homes, but when it comes to conduct outside those VERY LIMITED SPACES, ALLOWING people to do whatever they please is a very different thing.”

        I have attended Holy Mass in the public parks, In football stadiums, in baseball stadiums, in sports arenas. These are hardly “very limited spaces”.

        YFC, Who is YOUR master; ‘courts’ or Jesus Christ?!!!!!!! That was a rhetorical question, for your comments reveal the answer loud and clear! Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'” Matt. 4:10

  7. “WORTHINESS to RECIEVE HOLY COMMUNION” (regarding abortion and euthanasia) –
    http://www.priestsforlife.org/magisterium/bishops/04-07ratzingerommunion.htm

  8. MIchael McDermott says:

    A Chance to be of Real Help:

    Napa Earthquake Leaves Two Catholic Schools Damaged
    8/27/14 By Rachel Daly |

    Kolbe Academy/Trinity Prep School and Kolbe Home School and Online Academy have sustained significant damage in the earthquake that struck just outside of Napa, Calif., early Sunday morning. The two institutions remain closed while cleanup efforts proceed.

    According to its website, Kolbe Academy began in order to “form young Catholic citizens who could effectively defend their Faith through a thorough understanding of doctrine and regular reception of the Sacraments” and to provide
    “individualized and intensive instruction in basic education.” It later developed the Home School for those who could not commute. Kolbe describes its education as “Ignatian in method, classical in content and loyal to the Magisterium.”

    The Academy’s first news release after the devastating earthquake said that its local office in Napa, especially its book department, is in shambles. “Shelves are twisted, and books are scattered everywhere.” It is asking anyone available to help clean up and to support in any way possible. The Kolbe Academy/Trinity Prep campus also sustained damage, and the members of both communities face the added difficulty of losses to their personal homes as well.

    Kolbe Academy was founded in 1980, while Trinity Education Center, Inc., started in 1991 as a home school. According to the Academy, in 2008, both schools “recognize[ed] the strength of the schools’ common bonds [and] the two schools united to form Kolbe Academy and Trinity Prep.”

    – See more at: http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.org/CatholicEducationDaily/DetailsPage/tabid/102/ArticleID/3497/Napa-Earthquake-Leaves-Two-Catholic-Schools-Damaged.

  9. MIchael McDermott says:

    Manhattan Project
    I signed long ago, as did many – but there is still room for more:

    “Manhattan Declaration

    Chuck Colson called it “the most important document I ever put my name to.” This movement for life, marriage and religious liberty, founded by over 100 religious and cultural leaders gained over 400,000 signatures in an instant. National media were asking “What’s going on?” and the big question in the blogosphere was “Have you signed the Manhattan Declaration?”

    In the time since it was released the Manhattan Declaration’s importance has only risen. The fanfare may have subsided, but the question remains: “Have you signed?”

    Consider all that has occurred in just the last few months:
    – Kermit Gosnell’s abortion “house of horror” and murder trial raised new doubts about the permissibility of abortion.

    – the Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act, and will likely consider whether to nationalize same-sex marriage in June 2015.

    – Christian ministries and business owners instigated legal action over the conscience infringing HHS contraception mandate. Hobby Lobby was victorious at the Supreme Court, but other suits remain in limbo.

    – Christian small-business owners, students and missionaries are being sued nationwide for refusing to compromise their religious convictions, including photographer Elaine Huguenin who was told by the New Mexico Supreme Court that ignoring her religious convictions and endorsing a same-sex commitment ceremony was simply “the price of citizenship.”

  10. Obama reminds me of 200 miles of bad desert road. He reminds me of Herod who had the Holy Innocent’s slaughtered, and he reminds me of the non-Rev (perhaps more accurate title imam) Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s abandoned mentor.

  11. CCC: ” 2274 Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed, as far as possible, like any other human being.”

    “Endowment for Human Development”
    http://www.ehd.org/movies.php?mov_id=44

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